Writing a Job Posting
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We talk alot about bad job postings around here. I am certainly not going to disagree with most of the discussion as I feel it is true.
I am contemplating hiring someone as some of you know. So what should a good job posting look like in order to attract the right people?
Target Employee:
Ideally, I'm looking for someone cheaper than myself for the short term, but that I expect to grow into a much larger skillset worth more money.
I'm not looking for a Scott Alan Miller, or even a DashrenderPay
We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.
There is a company matched Simple IRA plan.
There is health insurance available, 50% paid for by the company. My family of 4 costs $1400/month of which the company pays $700.Hard Requirement:
On site in St Louis bi-weekly for two days or weekly one day.
Work Environment:
Other than the above requirement, it is generally work form home on whatever schedule you want as long as customer needs are met.
I will force you to run some Linux distro for a daily driver just because I'm an ass.General Workload:
Will be primary point of contact for a small number of clients where @Bundy-Associates is the entirety of the IT department.
As the entire IT staff, it is an IT Generalist position.
Obviously this includes basic help desk as well as more advanced things such as server and network administration.General Technologies in Use:
Microsoft AD environments (mostly down to file shares)
Hyper-V Server
KVM (on Fedora)
Various Linux based application servers such as Nextcloud, FreePBX, Bookstack, and more.How do I take that and turn it into a job listing that you all would find acceptable?
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@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
So what should a good job posting look like in order to attract the right people?
So I would simply expect a realistic title (knowing you) along with the realities of what is expected (which it seems you've outlined)
What is the pay range you'd offer for this?
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IT Systems Generalist
Bundy & Associates
Location: St Louis
Salary: Hourly, paid per client hours billed
Job Description:
You'll be the primary point of contact for a small number of clients where Bundy & Associates is their IT department (IT MSP). You will provide services from basic help desk, to more advanced tasks such as server and network administration. This is a heavy IT Generalist type of role.
Requirements:
- You must be available on-site in St Louis bi-weekly for two days, or on-site in St Louis for one day per week.
Basic Qualifications:
- Experience with Microsoft desktop and server operating systems (Windows 10, Windows Server 2012R2-2019, etc.)
- Experience with Linux desktop and server operating systems (CentOS, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.)
Preferred Qualifications:
- Experience with Microsoft Active Directory, DNS, DHCP, File Services, etc.
- Experience with Hyper-V Server
- KVM (on Fedora)
- Open Source Linux application solutions e.g., Nextcloud, FreePBX, Bookstack, etc.
Why us:
- Work from home per your own schedule so long as customer needs are met.
- No vacation. You schedule your own, your hourly rate accounts for this.
- Simple IRA plan, we pay half.
- Forced to run Linux on daily driver because we're asses. (and it's good for you ;))
Add to it, and you'll have a solid job posting IMHO.
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I'd axe out the preferred qualifications and go back to it just being describing the technology stacks used. And make sure basic qualifications are really the basic ones.
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I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.
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@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
Target Employee:
Ideally, I'm looking for someone cheaper than myself for the short term, but that I expect to grow into a much larger skillset worth more money.
I'm not looking for a Scott Alan Miller, or even a DashrenderWell if they read this site, that's all the description that you need!
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@Obsolesce said in Writing a Job Posting:
IT Systems Generalist
I like this as a title. But I think I'd do something like ...
IT System Generalist (MSP Consulting Role)
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@stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:
I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.
Hard deal to beat. I'd go with this!
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@flaxking said in Writing a Job Posting:
I'd axe out the preferred qualifications and go back to it just being describing the technology stacks used. And make sure basic qualifications are really the basic ones.
I agree here. List what you'll general expect done, let them decide how to show that they can do that.
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@stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:
I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.
Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?
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@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
@stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:
I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.
Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?
Pitt to St Louis, easy commute once every two weeks.
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@scottalanmiller said in Writing a Job Posting:
@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
@stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:
I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.
Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?
Pitt to St Louis, easy commute once every two weeks.
I might need to crunch numbers about Atlanta to St. Louis
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@EddieJennings said in Writing a Job Posting:
@scottalanmiller said in Writing a Job Posting:
@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
@stacksofplates said in Writing a Job Posting:
I'll do it along with my current job for $37 an hour. You don't need to pay health insurance then.
Did you miss the in St Louis requirement?
Pitt to St Louis, easy commute once every two weeks.
I might need to crunch numbers about Atlanta to St. Louis
It'd be at least $3500 a month in travel expenses for me lol.
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@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
*We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.Wow, seems like a tough gig.
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@JaredBusch Same job you were talking to me about?
Of all the job postings I've seen the place where they lose interest is preferred qualifications, and I'd suggest keeping the pay off the job posting.. You'll end up getting joe blow interested because of the money factor and not someone who is actually going to help you with what you're looking for, knowing you would never hire them, but they'd waste your time in an interview.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:
@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
*We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.Wow, seems like a tough gig.
Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.
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@WrCombs said in Writing a Job Posting:
@JaredBusch Same job you were talking to me about?
Of all the job postings I've seen the place where they lose interest is preferred qualifications, and I'd suggest keeping the pay off the job posting.. You'll end up getting joe blow interested because of the money factor and not someone who is actually going to help you with what you're looking for, knowing you would never hire them, but they'd waste your time in an interview.
Well - unless the resume is a total lie just to get the interview, it shouldn't be that bad.
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@Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:
@Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:
@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
*We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.Wow, seems like a tough gig.
Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.
The work is there. I'm still working out that information, but that doesn't matter to build the rest of the job listing.
Currently I'm 100% certain there is 30 hours/week.
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@Dashrender said in Writing a Job Posting:
@Carnival-Boy said in Writing a Job Posting:
@JaredBusch said in Writing a Job Posting:
*We currently run on an hourly payment model. The time you bill to clients is what you are paid.
There is no vacation, but the hourly rate accounts for that. If you can't swing taking time off, it is your own fault.Wow, seems like a tough gig.
Yeah this is pretty uncertain - is there any type of assured number of hours? I mean - i seriously doubt it, but one should ask.
I was thinking about this also. Just figured it would be a question during the interview process vs being listed on the job posting.
Didn't want to get a FFS or WTF!
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Many jobs start offering more and more time off as an employee hangs around i.e. 5 yrs = extra year of vacation... would you expect someone who hung around this long to negotiate a salary raise commensurate with this? Not something for the posting, but a followup question.
What if a person doesn't need health insurance because their family has it through their spouse?
