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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @RojoLoco
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      @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Dashrender advertising is a tool used to manipulate the idiotic masses and influence their spending and opinions, instead of people using thought and reason to decide what to buy or think. Regular folks are far too dumb to see through this.

      All true - but why do you care?

      But better yet - do you feel that the tail light video on YT had value?

      What is YT was pay only? what if all TV was pay only?

      What if the bar required you to pay $1/song by the live band playing - would you stop going there? I'm guessing you might - but what you don't know, you already do - you pay that through drinks or a cover fee or cost of food. Very few places anymore have truly free live music.

      In the grand scheme of things, you and don't hurt the system much - the normals of the world continue to buy products, products that pay for ads to be shown... so the money is getting to those that need it, just through other means.

      Again, I'm guessing you'd bail on ML if they blocked you ad blocker.. so you believe this site has so little value to you, that you're unwilling to allow their site to load an ad so they can make a few cents off your visit.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender advertising is a tool used to manipulate the idiotic masses and influence their spending and opinions, instead of people using thought and reason to decide what to buy or think. Regular folks are far too dumb to see through this.

        All true - but why do you care?

        But better yet - do you feel that the tail light video on YT had value?

        What is YT was pay only? what if all TV was pay only?

        What if the bar required you to pay $1/song by the live band playing - would you stop going there? I'm guessing you might - but what you don't know, you already do - you pay that through drinks or a cover fee or cost of food. Very few places anymore have truly free live music.

        In the grand scheme of things, you and don't hurt the system much - the normals of the world continue to buy products, products that pay for ads to be shown... so the money is getting to those that need it, just through other means.

        Again, I'm guessing you'd bail on ML if they blocked you ad blocker.. so you believe this site has so little value to you, that you're unwilling to allow their site to load an ad so they can make a few cents off your visit.

        If bars charged customers $1 per song per person, my band might actually be able to cover the gas it cost us to get there. Bad example for someone like me. I pay to see bands I like, and I buy merch from them (the only real way to support a live band, only way they make money), and I generally avoid no cover / live music things because I don't like cover bands. It's all just a pipe dream that advertising will go away, but a guy can dream of a better world, can't he?

        Taillight video on yt was just a random example. If it cost even a penny to watch, I would have just called the Subaru dealership (but I despise talking on the phone, so not my 1st choice). If all TV was pay only, I'd be pirating the shit out of anything I wanted to watch. I'd like to think by the time any of that happens, I'll be dead.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs
          last edited by

          anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @WrCombs
            last edited by

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

            Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @RojoLoco
              last edited by

              @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Dashrender advertising is a tool used to manipulate the idiotic masses and influence their spending and opinions, instead of people using thought and reason to decide what to buy or think. Regular folks are far too dumb to see through this.

              All true - but why do you care?

              But better yet - do you feel that the tail light video on YT had value?

              What is YT was pay only? what if all TV was pay only?

              What if the bar required you to pay $1/song by the live band playing - would you stop going there? I'm guessing you might - but what you don't know, you already do - you pay that through drinks or a cover fee or cost of food. Very few places anymore have truly free live music.

              In the grand scheme of things, you and don't hurt the system much - the normals of the world continue to buy products, products that pay for ads to be shown... so the money is getting to those that need it, just through other means.

              Again, I'm guessing you'd bail on ML if they blocked you ad blocker.. so you believe this site has so little value to you, that you're unwilling to allow their site to load an ad so they can make a few cents off your visit.

              If bars charged customers $1 per song per person, my band might actually be able to cover the gas it cost us to get there. Bad example for someone like me. I pay to see bands I like, and I buy merch from them (the only real way to support a live band, only way they make money), and I generally avoid no cover / live music things because I don't like cover bands. It's all just a pipe dream that advertising will go away, but a guy can dream of a better world, can't he?

              Taillight video on yt was just a random example. If it cost even a penny to watch, I would have just called the Subaru dealership (but I despise talking on the phone, so not my 1st choice). If all TV was pay only, I'd be pirating the shit out of anything I wanted to watch. I'd like to think by the time any of that happens, I'll be dead.

              Wow - 1 penny, the video didn't give you even 1 penny worth of value - do you pay for training? Hell - what do you pay for? only physical goods you can get your hands on? So you're not really paying the band for their music - i.e. you wouldn't just toss money in a bucket because they were playing - you only support them if they have some good that you want to own.

              I used to be that way too, I've definitely changed in recent years. I pay for LP because I like the product and want to see them stay open. I pay for Hulu because while I could easily private every TV show they have - it's not worth my time and hassle to do that manually versus paying $12.99.

              Heck - I've been completely against paying CBS online (bastards aren't part of Hulu)... I bought a $150 network attached tuner and antenna to record CBS shows over the air, but I've been thinking - huh - maybe that's just dumb! perhaps I really should return this item and just pay CBS... Clearly I feel they have valuable content, otherwise why would I spend $150 on a tuner? Plus by paying CBS, I got a TON more content than just what's broadcast. At $5.99/m, that's 25 months, not counting the time value of money.

              Oh, and my last tuner, only lasted two years, granted that lower than average, but it's all I have to go on at this point.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                I pay Hulu $12.99/m for the no ads version - sadly, I still get an occasional ad, but it's on only like 2 of the shows I watch there, definitely not the majority.

                That means it is not a no ads version by definition.....

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                • WrCombsW
                  WrCombs @Kelly
                  last edited by

                  @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

                  Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

                  I just got a frantic call from a customer ; someone was connected into their site installing zoho Assist..
                  They were freaking out called me and thought they had someone unwanted in the system..
                  I had never heard of it.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    I pay Hulu $12.99/m for the no ads version - sadly, I still get an occasional ad, but it's on only like 2 of the shows I watch there, definitely not the majority.

                    That means it is not a no ads version by definition.....

                    Hulu doesn't have an ad free version at all as far as I recall.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
                      last edited by

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

                      Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

                      I just got a frantic call from a customer ; someone was connected into their site installing zoho Assist..
                      They were freaking out called me and thought they had someone unwanted in the system..
                      I had never heard of it.

                      Think of it like TeamViewer, it could be used maliciously.

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

                        Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

                        I just got a frantic call from a customer ; someone was connected into their site installing zoho Assist..
                        They were freaking out called me and thought they had someone unwanted in the system..
                        I had never heard of it.

                        Think of it like TeamViewer, it could be used maliciously.

                        Yeah, its an RDS right?

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          I pay Hulu $12.99/m for the no ads version - sadly, I still get an occasional ad, but it's on only like 2 of the shows I watch there, definitely not the majority.

                          That means it is not a no ads version by definition.....

                          Hulu doesn't have an ad free version at all as far as I recall.

                          I know. That is why I don’t pay for their service.

                          I don’t pay to watch ads.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            I pay Hulu $12.99/m for the no ads version - sadly, I still get an occasional ad, but it's on only like 2 of the shows I watch there, definitely not the majority.

                            That means it is not a no ads version by definition.....

                            Hulu doesn't have an ad free version at all as far as I recall.

                            I know. That is why I don’t pay for their service.

                            I don’t pay to watch ads.

                            Exactly..

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              I pay Hulu $12.99/m for the no ads version - sadly, I still get an occasional ad, but it's on only like 2 of the shows I watch there, definitely not the majority.

                              That means it is not a no ads version by definition.....

                              Hulu doesn't have an ad free version at all as far as I recall.

                              I know. That is why I don’t pay for their service.

                              I don’t pay to watch ads.

                              Exactly..

                              Unlike @RojoLoco, I don’t mind ads on services in general. But I won’t pay for a service and then still be forced to deal with ads.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                I pay Hulu $12.99/m for the no ads version - sadly, I still get an occasional ad, but it's on only like 2 of the shows I watch there, definitely not the majority.

                                That means it is not a no ads version by definition.....

                                Hulu doesn't have an ad free version at all as far as I recall.

                                I know. That is why I don’t pay for their service.

                                I don’t pay to watch ads.

                                Exactly..

                                Unlike @RojoLoco, I don’t mind ads on services in general. But I won’t pay for a service and then still be forced to deal with ads.

                                I'm the exact same, it's why I've never purchased Hulu. F that.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @WrCombs
                                  last edited by DustinB3403

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

                                  Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

                                  I just got a frantic call from a customer ; someone was connected into their site installing zoho Assist..
                                  They were freaking out called me and thought they had someone unwanted in the system..
                                  I had never heard of it.

                                  Think of it like TeamViewer, it could be used maliciously.

                                  Yeah, its an RDS right?

                                  Technical support tool that uses an RDS tool.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                                    last edited by

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

                                    Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

                                    I just got a frantic call from a customer ; someone was connected into their site installing zoho Assist..
                                    They were freaking out called me and thought they had someone unwanted in the system..
                                    I had never heard of it.

                                    Think of it like TeamViewer, it could be used maliciously.

                                    Yeah, its an RDS right?

                                    No, I think you have a few terms confused.

                                    1. Zoho Assist is part of the support family like TeamViewer, ScreenConnect, and MeshCentral. It's a proxied connection focused on support needs, not remote working needs, and uses a server as the communications coordination point so remote access is "reach out" not "reach in". You don't open ports for this kind of product (at the client, at least.) These are "shared session".
                                    2. RDP is what you were thinking of. This is a direct connection technology used for remote workers, not remote assistance. It doesn't use a third party server, and does need ports opened. It is "reach in", not "reach out." It's focus is making remote workers productive, but is not very good for IT support needs. This is not "shared session."
                                    3. RDS is a specific server product from Microsoft. Nothing is "an" RDS except for RDS itself. It's not a type or category, it's a brand name. The "type of thing" that it is is a TS or Terminal Server. RDS is the most well known Terminal Server on the market (and it used to be called MS TS, but that was too confusing.) RDS uses RDP, but only .01% of RDP systems involve RDS. RDP is a protocol, RDS is a server product that leverages RDP. RDS is the technology that allows multiple remote users to directly connect to a single Windows computer at the same time and each get a dedicated desktop.
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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      anybody ever hear of Zoho assist??

                                      Hear of them, yes. Use them, no.

                                      I just got a frantic call from a customer ; someone was connected into their site installing zoho Assist..
                                      They were freaking out called me and thought they had someone unwanted in the system..
                                      I had never heard of it.

                                      Think of it like TeamViewer, it could be used maliciously.

                                      Yeah, its an RDS right?

                                      No, I think you have a few terms confused.

                                      1. Zoho Assist is part of the support family like TeamViewer, ScreenConnect, and MeshCentral. It's a proxied connection focused on support needs, not remote working needs, and uses a server as the communications coordination point so remote access is "reach out" not "reach in". You don't open ports for this kind of product (at the client, at least.) These are "shared session".
                                      2. RDP is what you were thinking of. This is a direct connection technology used for remote workers, not remote assistance. It doesn't use a third party server, and does need ports opened. It is "reach in", not "reach out." It's focus is making remote workers productive, but is not very good for IT support needs. This is not "shared session."
                                      3. RDS is a specific server product from Microsoft. Nothing is "an" RDS except for RDS itself. It's not a type or category, it's a brand name. The "type of thing" that it is is a TS or Terminal Server. RDS is the most well known Terminal Server on the market (and it used to be called MS TS, but that was too confusing.) RDS uses RDP, but only .01% of RDP systems involve RDS. RDP is a protocol, RDS is a server product that leverages RDP. RDS is the technology that allows multiple remote users to directly connect to a single Windows computer at the same time and each get a dedicated desktop.

                                      You can set up TeamViewer to allow incoming LAN Connections.
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