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@JasGot said in American Airlines:
And FAST! We've had MANY trans-atlantic flights where the sustained speed was over 600mph.
Remember the DC-9 Super 80!
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@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
Remember the DC-9 Super 80!
I do! One of the reasons I am so loyal to Delta, is because I was loyal to Northwest, because I was loyal to Republic. A groomsman's (in my wedding) father was a DC-9 pilot for all 3. He had a sweet route, nightly round trips from Detroit to Dulles.
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@JaredBusch said in American Airlines:
All U.S. carriers suck unless you pay for better seating. There is no real difference.
That has been my experience as well. I usually do end up paying for exit rows because I am fat
but it really doesnt matter.One thing I always do before I book is duckduckgo the seating chart of the aircraft. There are always notes about good seats to pick and ones not to pick.
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@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
@JasGot said in American Airlines:
@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
I consistently like AA better than Delta
Can you explain why? Also, do you fly FC when on larger airlines?
Not because of the seats of whatever, but because of overall customer service. Delta is by no small margin the worst airline I've every flown, anywhere in the world. And I fly all over. I've never had worse service, no one comes close. They absolutely hate their customers and will go out of their way to make sure you know it and are sorry for having been saddled with them. I would literally prefer a bare bones airline over Delta FC because how comfy the seat is doesn't make any difference when they sell it to someone else and leave you at the gate, even when you are on time.
I don't fly FC, don't see the value in it. If it was free, sure. But it's not, so ... why?
Sometimes I think my parents and I are the only people in the world who haven't had a bad Delta experience :P.
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@EddieJennings said in American Airlines:
@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
@JasGot said in American Airlines:
@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
I consistently like AA better than Delta
Can you explain why? Also, do you fly FC when on larger airlines?
Not because of the seats of whatever, but because of overall customer service. Delta is by no small margin the worst airline I've every flown, anywhere in the world. And I fly all over. I've never had worse service, no one comes close. They absolutely hate their customers and will go out of their way to make sure you know it and are sorry for having been saddled with them. I would literally prefer a bare bones airline over Delta FC because how comfy the seat is doesn't make any difference when they sell it to someone else and leave you at the gate, even when you are on time.
I don't fly FC, don't see the value in it. If it was free, sure. But it's not, so ... why?
Sometimes I think my parents and I are the only people in the world who haven't had a bad Delta experience :P.
I've never had a bad Delta experience as @scottalanmiller complains about. Had normal flight issues with all carriers I have ever flown on regularly.
US big three for me is Delta -> United -> AA
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@JaredBusch said in American Airlines:
Southwest is not considered because of airport restriction in Chicago. Also I hate their fucking cattle stalls. I want a specific seat.
Never had a "bad" experience with them, but never a good one, either. Here in Dallas they are consistently the most expensive carrier, which is BS considering what a terrible experience their cattle calls are. I've totally written them off as they are always twice the cost of anyone else. Literally anyone. They are my local airport, too. Really sucks that they are so bad cost wise and with how they handle passengers. The crew and flights were always good the few times I could afford to use them.
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@EddieJennings said in American Airlines:
@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
@JasGot said in American Airlines:
@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
I consistently like AA better than Delta
Can you explain why? Also, do you fly FC when on larger airlines?
Not because of the seats of whatever, but because of overall customer service. Delta is by no small margin the worst airline I've every flown, anywhere in the world. And I fly all over. I've never had worse service, no one comes close. They absolutely hate their customers and will go out of their way to make sure you know it and are sorry for having been saddled with them. I would literally prefer a bare bones airline over Delta FC because how comfy the seat is doesn't make any difference when they sell it to someone else and leave you at the gate, even when you are on time.
I don't fly FC, don't see the value in it. If it was free, sure. But it's not, so ... why?
Sometimes I think my parents and I are the only people in the world who haven't had a bad Delta experience :P.
No airline is perfect - I'm sure I've had a bad Delta experience - but so bad as to have a memory about it. They are who I normally fly with these days.. though I still often go with whomever is cheapest.
As for flying FC - like 3 times in my life, never paid for it myself, not worth it.
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@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
@JaredBusch said in American Airlines:
Southwest is not considered because of airport restriction in Chicago. Also I hate their fucking cattle stalls. I want a specific seat.
Never had a "bad" experience with them, but never a good one, either. Here in Dallas they are consistently the most expensive carrier, which is BS considering what a terrible experience their cattle calls are. I've totally written them off as they are always twice the cost of anyone else. Literally anyone. They are my local airport, too. Really sucks that they are so bad cost wise and with how they handle passengers. The crew and flights were always good the few times I could afford to use them.
If you are a two checked bag person - SW definitely starts to make sense, otherwise, I'm with you - too damned expensive.
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@JasGot said in American Airlines:
Anyone fly AA in FC? I am contemplating using AA on my next flight, but have never flown with them before. The equipment is an A319 and I am interested in your opinion on comfort (seats, noise, etc), food, and in flight services. If you can compare to Delta (A320), that would be most helpful.
Thanks.
Have you checked out seatguru.com? I'm sure there are other too.
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/American_Airlines/American_Airlines_Airbus_A319.php
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@Pete-S
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@Dashrender said in American Airlines:
As for flying FC - like 3 times in my life, never paid for it myself, not worth it.
I enjoy the bigger seat, I enjoy the lie flat bed (Delta One), I appreciate the food choices, and I certainly like the extra personal attention. We haven't flown in anything but FC since November of '94. The price is not an issue; my happiness is. For these reasons it is worth it to me. I will admit, however, if price were an issue, I would probably not be in FC.
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@JasGot said in American Airlines:
@Dashrender said in American Airlines:
As for flying FC - like 3 times in my life, never paid for it myself, not worth it.
I enjoy the bigger seat, I enjoy the lie flat bed (Delta One), I appreciate the food choices, and I certainly like the extra personal attention. We haven't flown in anything but FC since November of '94. The price is not an issue; my happiness is. For these reasons it is worth it to me. I will admit, however, if price were an issue, I would probably not be in FC.
The price is not an issue - ya must be part of the 0.1%... FC is normally 3x a non FC seat inside the US - no clue outside. And international it's more like 10x or more.
There was a thread on here a few years ago that showed how FC on international paid for something like 60-70% of the income of the flight - and could easily be over 90% in some cases - just showing how much more FC costs over non FC.
If I flew FC, I'd have to limit myself to one trip a year instead of the 4-6 I typically take.
Would I enjoy the larger seat - sure, the food, the lie flat (international) of course - but at the cost of the rest of my entire vacation? nope.
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@JasGot said in American Airlines:
The price is not an issue; my happiness is.
I find the price of FC would make me unhappy. lol
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@scottalanmiller said in American Airlines:
@JasGot said in American Airlines:
The price is not an issue; my happiness is.
I find the price of FC would make me unhappy. lol
What kind of income would you have to have to flip that frown upside down?
I think If I made 3x what I do now - I might be able to pull it off, though because of taxes it might take 4-5...
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@JasGot said in American Airlines:
@Dashrender said in American Airlines:
As for flying FC - like 3 times in my life, never paid for it myself, not worth it.
The price is not an issue; my happiness is.
Must be nice. I would have to choose between a FC ticket or actually having a vacation.
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@Dashrender said in American Airlines:
The price is not an issue - ya must be part of the 0.1%... FC is normally 3x a non FC seat inside the US - no clue outside.
Dallas to Managua: $125 on Spirit Economy
Houston to Managua: $570 on cheapest available FC (United)
Dallas to Managua: $1,178 on cheapest available FC (AA)Economy allows me to fly for under 1/4 the cost from the local airport. FC requires a four hour drive to a Houston airport to even get an option nearly doubling the TIME of the travel to not be instane! And adding a ton of additional cost and complication.
So for FC from the same airport... it's 1,000% higher and on an airline I enjoy flying less, with older planes. And two layovers instead of just one.
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@Dashrender said in American Airlines:
What kind of income would you have to have to flip that frown upside down?
When I was making in the .1% range, I was nowhere near FC making sense to me.
But there are a lot of factors. Food, lay flat, bigger seats... all nice but their value to me is dollars, not thousands of dollars. If I get FC for $20, heck yeah, I'm all over that on a flight of any length. But for $100, probably not.
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@RojoLoco said in American Airlines:
Must be nice. I would have to choose between a FC ticket or actually having a vacation.
With FC... the flight IS the vacation!
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Some people really have issues with the seats, food, drinks, and other factors on a flight. I do not. I'm so ridiculously comfy on flights that I won't even pay for seat assignments. I get middle seats regularly in economy and I don't really care. On all my flights this past week (four) I took the middle every time so that my traveling partner could have the non-middle seat. All the same to me. I'm just going to close my eyes and relax anyway.
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I think the point here is that @JasGot can afford to take us ALL on vacation, first class of course. Where are we going?
