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@popester said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@Dashrender said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
Definitely seems like an odd choice to start with.
I've seen reports in the past that XenServer frequently had problems working on consumer equipment because it lacked the needed drivers.
My thought process was that we are a XenApp on ESXi shop. We used xenserver for the first year but had lots of issues so we bit the bullet and ponied up for vCenter and ESXi. C-Level wants to look at cutting cost and XenServer is much cheaper. We have always been buyers, not engineers. I would like to do more along the line of design, not just bus driver. Forgive my possible slaughter of terminology.
That's a good start to thinking. ESXi probably provides you nothing there. The problem I would see in the logic isn't that a cheaper solution should be found, but that the "cheaper" solution that they went for is not a very good one from a vendor that isn't good at that. You can get better solutions even cheaper (including free.) XCP-NG is better, for sure. And the support is probably cheaper, if you decide to pay for it (which is great, support them for sure.) But KVM is cheaper too (also free) and has some great support options.
These days, KVM is the obvious choice for most people. Super fast, really easy to use, specifically the fastest option for Windows workloads (presumably that's what you are using XenApp for), and totally free. And super well known with all kinds of support.
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@Dashrender said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
And just because you hire an ITSP, doesn't mean you can't get education from them at the same time - just make sure that's on the table - don't just do for me, teach me at the same time - and yes, I understand this means you'll be slower, i.e. costing us more, but the point is my education.. and assuming that flies with the boss, then you're good to go.
For certain. Loads of our customers ask for training to go along with setups so that they understand what we are doing, why, and how to do it themselves if necessary. But keep us for asking questions and solving problems when they arise.
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@scottalanmiller said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@popester said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@Dashrender said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
Definitely seems like an odd choice to start with.
These days,
KVM is the obvious choice for most people. Super fast, really easy to use, specifically the fastest option for Windows workloads (presumably that's what you are using XenApp for), and totally free. And super well known with all kinds of support.Can I get the best jumping in link for KVM? I tried researching a couple of years ago and could never quite get it off the ground.
THank you.
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@popester said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@scottalanmiller said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@popester said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@Dashrender said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
Definitely seems like an odd choice to start with.
These days,
KVM is the obvious choice for most people. Super fast, really easy to use, specifically the fastest option for Windows workloads (presumably that's what you are using XenApp for), and totally free. And super well known with all kinds of support.Can I get the best jumping in link for KVM? I tried researching a couple of years ago and could never quite get it off the ground.
THank you.
Not sure that I have a great link, but I'd just install Fedora 31 and install the virtualization group. @DustinB3403 has the command handy, I'm packing and don't have it close at hand. But it is like a single command to get it all installed with the basics and the basic tools. Then use virt-manager either locally or remotely (over SSH) to manage it. Super easy to get the basics going.
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@popester said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@scottalanmiller said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@popester said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
@Dashrender said in Bootable Hardware Detection Tool::
Definitely seems like an odd choice to start with.
These days,
KVM is the obvious choice for most people. Super fast, really easy to use, specifically the fastest option for Windows workloads (presumably that's what you are using XenApp for), and totally free. And super well known with all kinds of support.Can I get the best jumping in link for KVM? I tried researching a couple of years ago and could never quite get it off the ground.
THank you.
A one line installation for KVM (without explaining what it does) can be found here
Copied below to reduce your headache. This assumes you have Fedora 31 installed and need to add the KVM functionality.
sudo dnf group install --with-optional virtualization -y && systemctl start libvirtd && systemctl enable libvirtd -
If you wanted some documentation on using Cockpit to administer KVM, here is some light reading.
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This is awesome. Thank you. I am energized now.
