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      1337 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Carless in Dallas:

      @Pete-S said in Carless in Dallas:

      But just let the car stay in the driveway for a month and you'll know in about 30 days.

      Then I have to pay for it all month. However, I'm doing just this this week. My car is gone and so it is going on right now, so to speak. Not doing 30 days, but pretty close. Other than a commute between Austin and Dallas (that I've done by bus before and prefer) it will be three weeks of me with no car. So a decent test.

      Yes, not bad. Hopefully that includes the entire family.

      But even if you just let the car sit, it will not cost you a fortune. Since you will not be driving it, it will not use any gas or other consumables. And it will not need service and without adding miles, the car depreciation will be less. So it's not really a costly experiment.

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        scottalanmiller @1337
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        @Pete-S said in Carless in Dallas:

        But even if you just let the car sit, it will not cost you a fortune. Since you will not be driving it, it will not use any gas or other consumables. And it will not need service and without adding miles, the car depreciation will be less. So it's not really a costly experiment.

        Kind of, but car payment and insurance add up. That alone is like $500/mo. Plus inspection/registration is like $12/mo if you spread it out. It's not huge, but it adds up. Then depreciation, too.

        In this experiment, since it is borrowed, it is getting used and the money isn't wasted, so that's fine. But in general, the cost of even a sitting car is too much!

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          Now I have one ENORMOUS unfair thing that I think makes being carless completely a win no matter what, but I didn't want to add it to the main discussion. That's that I live abroad a significant portion of the time, and when I live in the US I travel heavily where owning a car isn't very useful, like because I fly.

          So even if it is close to break even when I'm home, it would have to cost half as much to own a car as to not to make sense for me personally.

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            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Carless in Dallas:

            @Dashrender said in Carless in Dallas:

            No commute time? you sure? I don't get to write off my commute to my day job, do cabbies and Uber get to write off the drive to the first client? or the drive between clients?

            Yes, obviously, because it is part of the job. You would get to write it off if you were a company and working as you walked out the door. As an MSP, we certainly get to write that stuff off when we are between clients.

            that's different because you are fully on the clock the moment you leave your home in this case because your home IS your office and you're leaving to go to a client - wither you charge them or not for travel time.

            But an uber is completely different. You claimed that your home is your office - but is it really? This is a known thing? Cabbies all declare their office as their homes? and get to bill even when they aren't on the clock with a client in the cab?

            Again, I said before - that only seems right - but I don't know the law.

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              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Carless in Dallas:

              Now I have one ENORMOUS unfair thing that I think makes being carless completely a win no matter what, but I didn't want to add it to the main discussion. That's that I live abroad a significant portion of the time, and when I live in the US I travel heavily where owning a car isn't very useful, like because I fly.

              So even if it is close to break even when I'm home, it would have to cost half as much to own a car as to not to make sense for me personally.

              Well of course.

              In that case, renting a car while you're home could be the best option. Could, but Uber everywhere could be too.

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                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Carless in Dallas:

                that's different because you are fully on the clock the moment you leave your home in this case because your home IS your office and you're leaving to go to a client - wither you charge them or not for travel time.

                Same with an Uber. You are an Uber driver the moment you step out your front door. You don't drive to an office that is a pre-set location nor are you a W2 employee where that applies.

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                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Carless in Dallas:

                  But an uber is completely different. You claimed that your home is your office - but is it really? This is a known thing? Cabbies all declare their office as their homes? and get to bill even when they aren't on the clock with a client in the cab?

                  Cabbies are W2 employees with an office location where they pick up and drop off their cars. Cabbies work like employees, Uber drivers work like contractors. The delineation is pretty clear.

                  A cabbie isn't working until they've clocked in at work and has to be paid whether or not they have customers. Uber is contract work and you are "looking for work" from the instant you start, wherever that is.

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                    Being an Uber driver is like being a sales person. A sales person is "working" the moment that they start attempting to get a customer or get to a potential customer. Anything involved in the attempt to do that work is tax deductible.

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                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Carless in Dallas:

                      @Dashrender said in Carless in Dallas:

                      But an uber is completely different. You claimed that your home is your office - but is it really? This is a known thing? Cabbies all declare their office as their homes? and get to bill even when they aren't on the clock with a client in the cab?

                      Cabbies are W2 employees with an office location where they pick up and drop off their cars. Cabbies work like employees, Uber drivers work like contractors. The delineation is pretty clear.

                      A cabbie isn't working until they've clocked in at work and has to be paid whether or not they have customers. Uber is contract work and you are "looking for work" from the instant you start, wherever that is.

                      Huh - that's not what I've ever understood - what's the whole medalian thing then? I've heard of cabbies having their own medalians... or renting one.. in the renting one situation I could see the clock punching you mention...

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                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Carless in Dallas:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Carless in Dallas:

                        @Dashrender said in Carless in Dallas:

                        But an uber is completely different. You claimed that your home is your office - but is it really? This is a known thing? Cabbies all declare their office as their homes? and get to bill even when they aren't on the clock with a client in the cab?

                        Cabbies are W2 employees with an office location where they pick up and drop off their cars. Cabbies work like employees, Uber drivers work like contractors. The delineation is pretty clear.

                        A cabbie isn't working until they've clocked in at work and has to be paid whether or not they have customers. Uber is contract work and you are "looking for work" from the instant you start, wherever that is.

                        Huh - that's not what I've ever understood - what's the whole medalian thing then? I've heard of cabbies having their own medalians... or renting one.. in the renting one situation I could see the clock punching you mention...

                        You think normal taxi drivers are paying $700K of their own money to get a license, and then buying a special, expensive taxi cab on top of that? Those medallions all but guarantee that you can't operate a cab unless you are employed.

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                          batman @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Carless in Dallas:

                          abbies work like employees, Uber drivers work like contractors. The delineation is pretty clear.

                          Don't tell the state of California 🙂

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                            Back in the days when my wife and I shared one car. She would take our daughter to the babysitter and go to work. I would go to work via bike, bike+train/bus for long distance and train/bus during winter.

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                              Anyone know where I can find a carpet cleaner in Dallas?

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                                Obsolesce @Alex Jones
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                                @Alex-Jones said in Carless in Dallas:

                                Anyone know where I can find a carpet cleaner in Dallas?

                                No, but keep a lookout on the main page here. Something will pop up sooner than later.

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