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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

      @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

      I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

      I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

      15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @Dashrender
        last edited by dafyre

        @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

        @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

        @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

        I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

        I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

        15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

        15 Years ago? Ha... We were using Skype and IRC.

        Edit: The old man still runs his own IRC server for like 5 friends.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

          @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

          @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

          I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

          I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

          15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

          yeah, that's what I was thinking... we just... didn't.

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          • PhlipElderP
            PhlipElder @Deleted74295
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            @Deleted74295 We don't do facebook and have no plans to.

            A fellow Microsoft MVP once put it, "Being on Facebook is like allowing a pornographer to take up residence in your bedroom."

            I totally concur with that.

            Plus, Z never did anything to earn our trust. The time and time again dealing with folks who had their "security" settings opened up to the world pretty much cemented it for us.

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            • PhlipElderP
              PhlipElder @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

              @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

              @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

              @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

              I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

              I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

              15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

              yeah, that's what I was thinking... we just... didn't.

              Blunt: Pretty sad that.

              We have/had telephones and mail. We used them extensively because keeping family together is important.

              Anything worthwhile takes effort.

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              • PhlipElderP
                PhlipElder @dafyre
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                @dafyre said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

                I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

                15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

                15 Years ago? Ha... We were using Skype and IRC.

                Edit: The old man still runs his own IRC server for like 5 friends.

                ICU? MSN Messenger? AIM?

                Heh, there are some vague memories in there of those in the latter part of the 1990s early 2000s.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Carnival Boy
                  last edited by

                  @Carnival-Boy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                  I have various WhatsApp groups for family and friends, which is perfect for my needs. My niece loves to hear that my daughter won her swimming gala, but a bloke I went to school with who I haven't seen in 20 years really doesn't want to know. So WhatsApp group great, Facebook rubbish.

                  I just wish Facebook didn't own WhatsApp.

                  That is what made Google+ so superior. Their whole system was groups(circles) based. A 'friend' of yours could be in as many of your circles as you wanted, making it much easier to share with whom you want specific data.

                  Managing FB groups could allow for this - but unlike Google+, you don't get a list of all of your groups to publish a post to. Plus groups and circles work differently.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @PhlipElder
                    last edited by

                    @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                    @Deleted74295 We don't do facebook and have no plans to.

                    A fellow Microsoft MVP once put it, "Being on Facebook is like allowing a pornographer to take up residence in your bedroom."

                    I totally concur with that.

                    That seems more than a little over the top.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @PhlipElder
                      last edited by

                      @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                      @dafyre said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                      @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                      @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                      @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                      I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

                      I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

                      15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

                      15 Years ago? Ha... We were using Skype and IRC.

                      Edit: The old man still runs his own IRC server for like 5 friends.

                      ICU? MSN Messenger? AIM?

                      Heh, there are some vague memories in there of those in the latter part of the 1990s early 2000s.

                      Most of my family didn't have internet until the mid to late 2000's. Even then, didn't use it much until smartphones and tablets. Chat is something my family has never used. by family I mean -my mom/dad/brothers.

                      The biggest way we still communicate is either SMS or a phone call.

                      I've been online since the mid 90's.

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                      • PhlipElderP
                        PhlipElder @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                        @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                        @Deleted74295 We don't do facebook and have no plans to.

                        A fellow Microsoft MVP once put it, "Being on Facebook is like allowing a pornographer to take up residence in your bedroom."

                        I totally concur with that.

                        That seems more than a little over the top.

                        Uh no. Given the reveals over the last few years of what Z is doing with the data it's not. My opinion of the man and the company are not for polite company to say the least but that at least gives an idea of where I stand.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @PhlipElder
                          last edited by

                          @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                          @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                          @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                          @Deleted74295 We don't do facebook and have no plans to.

                          A fellow Microsoft MVP once put it, "Being on Facebook is like allowing a pornographer to take up residence in your bedroom."

                          I totally concur with that.

                          That seems more than a little over the top.

                          Uh no. Given the reveals over the last few years of what Z is doing with the data it's not. My opinion of the man and the company are not for polite company to say the least but that at least gives an idea of where I stand.

                          I totally get where you stand. So I assume you use next to no online services at all then, right? They all collect as much data about you as humanly possible - it's in their own best interest to do so so they can provide services that will make them more money.

                          I.e. you're not using FB, so you're using any of Google's services either, right?

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                          • PhlipElderP
                            PhlipElder @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                            @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                            @dafyre said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                            @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                            @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                            @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                            I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

                            I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

                            15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

                            15 Years ago? Ha... We were using Skype and IRC.

                            Edit: The old man still runs his own IRC server for like 5 friends.

                            ICU? MSN Messenger? AIM?

                            Heh, there are some vague memories in there of those in the latter part of the 1990s early 2000s.

                            Most of my family didn't have internet until the mid to late 2000's. Even then, didn't use it much until smartphones and tablets. Chat is something my family has never used. by family I mean -my mom/dad/brothers.

                            The biggest way we still communicate is either SMS or a phone call.

                            I've been online since the mid 90's.

                            SMS seems to be one of the better ones. I've been texting my brothers-in-law back and forth quite a bit over the last few years. We've become quite good friends.

                            I tend a mail list for family members with regular postings of pictures and events that are happening in our family life such as home school and extra curricular stuff. They generate a fair amount of e-mail exchanges and a few phone calls here and there.

                            Effort. Just like a garden family takes effort. FB is much too much like, "I can feel really good about myself keeping family in touch" without ever reaching out to them to talk to them ... to show interest in their lives.

                            [/SOAPBOX]

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @PhlipElder
                              last edited by

                              @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              @PhlipElder said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              @dafyre said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              @Dashrender said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              @scottalanmiller said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              @WLS-ITGuy said in No Facebook - 30 Days. Go:

                              I use Facebook as a way to keep in touch with family and friends who don’t live close to me. I use FB Messenger to talk to my wife throughout the work day. If I wasn’t in IT I doubt I’d have a phone with internet. I’d prefer to be disconnected from the world. I’d rather be on my boat fishing all day.

                              I was doing that (family and stuff), but honestly, it seems like if people don't move to something else to talk to, not a big deal.

                              15 years ago, before Facebook - what did you use to keep in contact with your family? I don't know about you - buy my answer was - oh yeah - nothing. We didn't stay in contact and we didn't feel like we were missing anything - otherwise we would have found a way to stay in contact.

                              15 Years ago? Ha... We were using Skype and IRC.

                              Edit: The old man still runs his own IRC server for like 5 friends.

                              ICU? MSN Messenger? AIM?

                              Heh, there are some vague memories in there of those in the latter part of the 1990s early 2000s.

                              Most of my family didn't have internet until the mid to late 2000's. Even then, didn't use it much until smartphones and tablets. Chat is something my family has never used. by family I mean -my mom/dad/brothers.

                              The biggest way we still communicate is either SMS or a phone call.

                              I've been online since the mid 90's.

                              SMS seems to be one of the better ones. I've been texting my brothers-in-law back and forth quite a bit over the last few years. We've become quite good friends.

                              I tend a mail list for family members with regular postings of pictures and events that are happening in our family life such as home school and extra curricular stuff. They generate a fair amount of e-mail exchanges and a few phone calls here and there.

                              Effort. Just like a garden family takes effort. FB is much too much like, "I can feel really good about myself keeping family in touch" without ever reaching out to them to talk to them ... to show interest in their lives.

                              [/SOAPBOX]

                              It can, that's for sure - but email is a horrible way to have a conversation. Just like these forums aren't what I consider great for conversation. That's because they aren't meant for short super fast exchanges. A conversation (i.e. talking) is a group going back and forth at a good clip. While that sometimes happens here, the problem with forums is that it's so difficult to keep up at times. In the time I made this post, it's possible 5 people have posted... I go to read those 5 posts, and another 30 posts are up and I've forgotten what I wanted to add about the first 5 posts, etc.

                              The short quick replies like you see in FB comments definitely seems more engaging for actual conversation - than that flame wars still don't break out all the time all over the place.

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