Linux users with iPhones / iPads
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For those of us who use Linux as our main computers and also use iPhones / iPads, how to you handle your getting your non-streamed music library onto your iPhone / iPad?
- Do you just not worry about it and only play music on your mobile devices using Spotify, etc?
- Do you use something like WINE to try to run iTunes for syncing?
- Do you keep a machine with macOS (or Windows with iTunes installed) around for ripping music and syncing?
- Do you have music files in a service like NextCloud and play the files on your iPhone / iPad?
Here's a little context for the question. First the macOS devices are nine years old; thus, likely this year OSX Sierra is going to stop getting security patches. My end goal is this: I want to have as much of my music library as possible available on my iPhone or iPad for use when I'm teaching a music lesson and those are the only devices I have with me. I find myself rarely listening to my music library on a laptop or desktop computer, so having it available on those devices doesn't matter to me; however, obviously there will be a device with the files, since most of my library comes from my CDs.
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
how to you handle your getting your non-streamed music library onto your iPhone / iPad?
Even without Linux, I never did it. iTunes is such a train wreck, I would not put it on Windows, either.
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I stream from Plex. And if I really wanted to put it on iOS devices, I can since I have Plexpass.
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
I stream from Plex. And if I really wanted to put it on iOS devices, I can since I have Plexpass.
Am I right in assuming your own media is hosted on a Plex server. If so, where do you host your Plex server?
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
I stream from Plex. And if I really wanted to put it on iOS devices, I can since I have Plexpass.
Am I right in assuming your own media is hosted on a Plex server. If so, where do you host your Plex server?
Yes, it's hosted in my Plex server. It runs on my home server, with Google Drive as storage backend.
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
I stream from Plex. And if I really wanted to put it on iOS devices, I can since I have Plexpass.
Am I right in assuming your own media is hosted on a Plex server. If so, where do you host your Plex server?
I do the same thing. I have an older HP server in my basement that I use for it, and other things.
I've been debating moving all of my storage to Wasabi and spinning up a couple VPS. I figure I could about break even saving the power costs of my older server, and be on WAY faster hardware in the process.
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If you only want to host music, you could probably get away with a $2.50 instance on Vultr with 50 GB of free block storage. Of course that's depending on the size of your library. Wasabi could be super cheap also.
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I'll do some reading on Plex. I've heard of it, but have never looked into it, and it seems intriguing.
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Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
For those of us who use Linux as our main computers and also use iPhones / iPads, how to you handle your getting your non-streamed music library onto your iPhone / iPad?
I don't. I stream everything.
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@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
In my house at the moment. I'm redoing my colocation server to KVM in June. I will move it to that system after that.
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@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
In my house at the moment. I'm redoing my colocation server to KVM in June. I will move it to that system after that.
How do you expose that to the Internet for someone like me to access? Do you use some kind of dynamic DNS service to keep the A record for your home IP address up to date? Or does your Plex server send traffic to and through Plex's infrastructure, they're the intermediary between you and I?
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@EddieJennings Authentication goes through Plex, and I think you have to expose Plex port, but I'm not sure about that. You can access it through DNS record too, that's how mine is setup.
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@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@EddieJennings said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
@JaredBusch said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Setup a free account with Plex and then shoot me the email. I will give you access to mine to try things out.
You need the purchased app or the plex pass to save things locally on your device for offline play, but you can get a feel for things without that.
Is your Plex server in colocation?
In my house at the moment. I'm redoing my colocation server to KVM in June. I will move it to that system after that.
How do you expose that to the Internet for someone like me to access? Do you use some kind of dynamic DNS service to keep the A record for your home IP address up to date? Or does your Plex server send traffic to and through Plex's infrastructure, they're the intermediary between you and I?
Plex servers act as a relay to setup the direct connection. Like most other services (ZeroTier, etc.)
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
I think you have to expose Plex port,
nope. Not unless you are also trying to do this:
@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
You can access it through DNS record too, that's how mine is setup.
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Yeah, I just checked, mine is exposed.
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@EddieJennings https://support.plex.tv/articles/216766168-accessing-a-server-through-relay/
It has bandwidth limitations, 1 or 2Mbit, if you have bigger pipe where you host Plex, then exposing port gives you better experience.
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@marcinozga said in Linux users with iPhones / iPads:
Yeah, I just checked, mine is exposed.
Because there is a relay host choice for connection setup, I would never do that. It adds a large attack vector for your network.
Before Plex had their relay method, I would also have used a direct connection method.
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If I go the route of Plex, I suppose I could just load what I want on the iPhone / iPad for offline listening, and not have to deal with streaming over the Internet.
