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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @dbeato
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      @dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

      @JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.

      I do not know if this affected me this morning or not.

      The unit was still showing that it had sent data, but not all the data it should have been.

      The status icon was a blue circle with dots spinning instead of the blue circle with arrows showing data transfer, or the green circle with a check showing up to date.

      I clicked the pause sync button and the icon went green, but then i cuold not click unpause as it still showed paused.

      I rebooted the unit and it immediately began to sync data that should already have been sent 2 weeks ago.

      Sent a ticket off to Synology. We shall see what they say.

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      • wrx7mW
        wrx7m
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        I am sure you have already done this, but there are no updates to either the app or Synology OS, right?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @wrx7m
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          @wrx7m said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

          I am sure you have already done this, but there are no updates to either the app or Synology OS, right?

          DSM updated last week. That app hasn't had an update.

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

            @dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

            @JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.

            Around 6pm today stuff stopped moving.

            1bb6db3d-51b7-4665-bec1-c919b154212d-image.png

            I was stupid and dind't screenshot the Synology before rebooting, but is just said "Connecting"

            It is currently rebooting.

            Did the Synology stop responding on the network at this point or did the transfer just stop?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @wrx7m
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              @wrx7m said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

              @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

              @dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

              @JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.

              Around 6pm today stuff stopped moving.

              1bb6db3d-51b7-4665-bec1-c919b154212d-image.png

              I was stupid and dind't screenshot the Synology before rebooting, but is just said "Connecting"

              It is currently rebooting.

              Did the Synology stop responding on the network at this point or did the transfer just stop?

              That has nothing to do with today's conversation.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @dbeato
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                @dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                @JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.

                Today.
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                But it looks like some stuff has been uploading.
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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                  Sent a ticket off to Synology. We shall see what they say.

                  Their response was fucking stupid T1 bullshit.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                    @dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                    @JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.

                    Today.

                    rebooted and surprise, more things to sync.
                    df9bc122-38fd-42a4-a7b4-07f81f3e7eb2-image.png

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch I guess it did not stop then.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        Dead again this morning.
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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch Out of curiosity is this NAS having network connectivity drops?

                          Can you setup a monitor to watch this device and see if the NIC itself is completely disconnecting/failing.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                            @JaredBusch Out of curiosity is this NAS having network connectivity drops?

                            Can you setup a monitor to watch this device and see if the NIC itself is completely disconnecting/failing.

                            I have all 4 NICs connected in a team. This is unlikely to be the problem. Also, one would think that even if is lost connectivity, a fucking sync application would then resume.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                              one would think

                              Sounds an awful lot like assume.

                              But yeah being in a team I can't imagine that being the issue.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                one would think

                                Sounds an awful lot like assume.

                                But yeah being in a team I can't imagine that being the issue.

                                Support finally replied asking for remote access. I enabled that and we shall see what they say.

                                I've sent log files twice.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  Current status

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                                    1337 @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch Throughout this thread and other similar NAS threads, I wonder why you are using a NAS instead of just running a linux server?

                                    Is it the hardware? Even if it's a low powered desktop NAS, something like HPE's Microserver would do the job with its 4x3.5" drive bays for around $300 without drives. 4 drive bays would be up to 24TB of usable space on a RAID-10 array.

                                    Just seems like someone with your experience could easily get the job done without the gui. So why use non-standard OS with non-standard hardware?

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @1337
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                                      @Pete-S said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                      @JaredBusch Throughout this thread and other similar NAS threads, I wonder why you are using a NAS instead of just running a linux server?

                                      Is it the hardware? Even if it's a low powered desktop NAS, something like HPE's Microserver would do the job with its 4x3.5" drive bays for around $300 without drives. 4 drive bays would be up to 24TB of usable space on a RAID-10 array.

                                      Just seems like someone with your experience could easily get the job done without the gui. So why use non-standard OS with non-standard hardware?

                                      I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.

                                      Synology is a nice solid unit for something like this.

                                      We are not an MSP. We do very little full IT Department work compared to many places.

                                      If we did more, I wouldn't be looking for a part time ass in a chair right now. I could easily find people looking for full time work with.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                        I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.

                                        But it is a trivial skill to find. They could just not hire a competent IT person at all and all IT infrastructure would be a problem. It's not a realistic way to choose tech as long as you are discussing broad, basic skills that are not in any shortage. There is absolutely no limit or problem getting UNIX admins.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                          I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.

                                          But it is a trivial skill to find. They could just not hire a competent IT person at all and all IT infrastructure would be a problem. It's not a realistic way to choose tech as long as you are discussing broad, basic skills that are not in any shortage. There is absolutely no limit or problem getting UNIX admins.

                                          I don't even think @JaredBusch cares so much about being able to "do it more cheaply" by building a nix server himself, as much as he cares about having supported hardware for the environment (hardware support).

                                          Also he's already stated he's looking for that bus/lottery protection, which a Synology is a pretty easy means of getting that, albeit the lowest kind of protection.

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                                            1337 @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:

                                            I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.

                                            But it is a trivial skill to find. They could just not hire a competent IT person at all and all IT infrastructure would be a problem. It's not a realistic way to choose tech as long as you are discussing broad, basic skills that are not in any shortage. There is absolutely no limit or problem getting UNIX admins.

                                            I don't even think @JaredBusch cares so much about being able to "do it more cheaply" by building a nix server himself, as much as he cares about having supported hardware for the environment (hardware support).

                                            Also he's already stated he's looking for that bus/lottery protection, which a Synology is a pretty easy means of getting that, albeit the lowest kind of protection.

                                            Dustin, what exactly do you mean by "bus/lottery protection"? That it's unreliable? Or an extra backup for unlikely situations?

                                            In general I found that using a server instead of an appliance is almost never cheaper. But you can get whatever hardware quality you want with warranty & support to what ever level you need. And using a standard OS you can get whatever support level you need as well. With an appliance you kind of get what you get and have to rely on the vendor fixing everything for you.

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