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    Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019

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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

      @wirestyle22 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

      @CCWTech said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

      @wirestyle22 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

      This was painful to read

      TRUE! Wow... some serious lack of BASIC I.T. Knowledge...

      Eh, I don't really care about that. We are all in a constant state of learning. I'm not in a position to judge anyone

      Lacking basic knowledge is not bad. Lacking the most basic knowledge while repeatedly berating other people and claiming to be a domain expert so cover up a long series of lies is the issue.

      Yeah that is the part that is a problem.

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      • zachary715Z
        zachary715 @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

        This was painful to read

        Did you actually read the entire thing? Anytime Scott goes on those 8 post rants where he's writing a paragraph to every 4 words, I have to just skip those. Kudos to anyone who survived the whole thing.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @zachary715
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          @zachary715 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

          Anytime Scott goes on those 8 post rants where he's writing a paragraph to every 4 words,

          It's tough, because the "four words" is making a false claim, and then I have to provide real IT and documentation to refute it. So not a good way to make it less wordy, because I have to explain concepts behind things in each response.

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            bnrstnr @zachary715
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            @zachary715 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

            @wirestyle22 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

            This was painful to read

            Did you actually read the entire thing? Anytime Scott goes on those 8 post rants where he's writing a paragraph to every 4 words, I have to just skip those. Kudos to anyone who survived the whole thing.

            It's taken some time to get used to, but I feel like it's easier to read because he's addressing each point separately. Wall of text is for sure harder to keep on point when really breaking something down. How he strings 6 replies in a minute is still a mystery to me though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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              @bnrstnr said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

              How he strings 6 replies in a minute is still a mystery to me though.

              Focus 😉

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @zachary715
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                @zachary715 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                @wirestyle22 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                This was painful to read

                Did you actually read the entire thing? Anytime Scott goes on those 8 post rants where he's writing a paragraph to every 4 words, I have to just skip those. Kudos to anyone who survived the whole thing.

                I read the entire thing. If I Cherry pick I may miss a detail that would be helpful for me to learn.

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                • pchiodoP
                  pchiodo @mary
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                  @mary said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                  @xrobau I'm an intern and nothing you have listed is a special feature. I honestly thought you were a salesman or vendor on this thread.

                  Wow! Brutal honesty

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                    There is, in fact, not a single factual thing in this description, not even buried in the subtext.

                    If you look really really closely at the subtext there is a 🖕 buried in there. lol

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @mary
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                      @mary said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                      @xrobau I'm an intern and nothing you have listed is a special feature. I honestly thought you were a salesman or vendor on this thread.

                      He very well could be, thus the fervent shouting about the myths of FreeNAS and ZFS. You have to question someone when they are so impassioned about a topic, but can provide no proof.

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                      • maryM
                        mary @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller this is the best thread ever

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @mary
                          last edited by

                          @mary said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                          @scottalanmiller this is the best thread ever

                          Programming printers may still have this one beat. . .

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                          • CloudKnightC
                            CloudKnight
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                            wow, what a read.. like to see Scott has also posted evidence referring to what he's posted, which I like to see as well, this really helps in the discussion. Always got to back up your claims.

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                            • pchiodoP
                              pchiodo
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                              Does this somehow resemble the early days of that other tech community when "experts" would show up and get SAM'd?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                @mary said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                @scottalanmiller this is the best thread ever

                                Programming printers may still have this one beat. . .

                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/1443/better-than-aliens

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco
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                                  So how many down votes does it take to get a pseudo-expert removed from a forum? Asking for a friend.

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                                  • pchiodoP
                                    pchiodo
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                                    @XROBAU So I don't know if you are still reading this, have abandoned the thread, or left the community, but if you are still here, I just want to tell you something....

                                    Scott Alan Miller is probably in the top 20 storage experts IN THE WORLD. He may come off as a bit arrogant and maybe a little condescending, but at the end of the day, he really is an expert.

                                    If you do even a modicum of research on Scott, you will find he is referenced, quoted, copied, and cloned throughout tech communities and forums around the world, and his advice and recommendations are used daily in businesses ranging from mom and pops, to Fortune 100 companies.

                                    Companies like Change.org, Citi, Barclays, as well as hedge funds, and Wall Street firms have sought out Scott for his expertise. These companies do not take data and storage lightly, so when THEY seek out someone like Scott, you can be assured his skills and knowledge are rock solid.

                                    Just sayin' dude

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                                    • LilAngL
                                      LilAng
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                                      @xrobau You lost me at " Striping and Mirroring is obviously the same."

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs
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                                        holy - comedy.
                                        I cant even begin to comprehend how bad this is .

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          As a bit of a rebuttal, you're kinda getting confused and claming FreeNAS is a bunch of things it isn't. In fact, in that 'common myths' page is ... I dunno, random made up stuff?

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          So, as a Solaris administrator from way back, let's go through a couple of the misapprehensions about ZFS in that document you linked!

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          I am your guest ZFS expert! Ask me anything

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          Truly, honestly, that's not how ZFS works. I cross my heart.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          Dude, I've been doing this for almost 30 years

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          I got my Windows cert, and CCIE, and a bunch of other things before moving into DevOps. So, please - trust me when I say I know what I'm talking about.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          Honestly, this is where you are 100% wrong, and you refuse to listen to me.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          But telling me I'm wrong isn't going to get you anywhere, because I know what I'm talking about here. This is my field of expertise.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          Now, if you can take a breath, admit that you've learned something new about ZFS

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          I've been using ZFS for 15 years now, and I'm extremely confident in my knowledge.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          I'm a sysadmin. I've done courses.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          I now have to quote multiple things, scroll backwards and forwards, and generally waste even more of my time.

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          This is what frustrates me here - I know this stuff IN DEPTH

                                          @xrobau said in Revisiting ZFS and FreeNAS in 2019:

                                          you're trying to claim that you know this better than me, when you obviously don't. It's massively frustrating.

                                          This is the greatest collection of "I'm smart and I'm an expert" statements I've ever seen. The more someone has to tell you how brilliant they are....

                                          Ignorance is bliss. There's hardly any shortage of it here.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce
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                                            Guys what if, just follow me here for a second, @scottalanmiller and @xrobau are actually the same person?

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