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    • coliverC
      coliver @connorsoliver
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      @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

      What are the scenarios in which TCP would be used over UDP, and visa versa?

      TCP is pretty much anytime you want "reliability". It has the ability to re-request missing packets and put them in the correct order.

      UDP is made for speed where you don't care if you've missed a packet or not or even if they are out of order.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @connorsoliver
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        @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

        Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

        What do you mean exactly?
        in every situation i've come across IP conflicts -2 or more devices using the same IP address on a single network- cause quite the head ache...

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        • coliverC
          coliver @connorsoliver
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          @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

          Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

          I think you're talking about NAT (Network Address Translation) where the external IP address appears the same but the internal address for each client is different and managed either statically or via DHCP.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @connorsoliver
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            @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

            Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

            No two people can have the same IP address. I'm sure what you are seeing is people on different networks, not people on the same network. And they are behind a NAT device that is giving them a different IP address than the one that you are seeing. You will need to learn about NAT to understand how that is happening.

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            • WrCombsW
              WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

              @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

              Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

              No two people can have the same IP address. I'm sure what you are seeing is people on different networks, not people on the same network. And they are behind a NAT device that is giving them a different IP address than the one that you are seeing. You will need to learn about NAT to understand how that is happening.

              Which comes with the Network+ certificate (if im not mistaken) more so then A+ (right? I remember when I was studying for the Network+ cert it came up.. )

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @connorsoliver
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                @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                What are the scenarios in which TCP would be used over UDP, and visa versa?

                TCP is a "heavy" connection oriented protocol. UDP is a "light" connectionless protocol. YOU don't choose one or the other, makers of protocols higher up the stack choose TCP or UDP as their underlying protocols to build upon.

                So like RTP chooses UDP. And HTTP chooses TCP. But as IT people, we just have to know which one uses what, we don't get to choose which is used.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                  @WrCombs said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                  @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                  Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

                  No two people can have the same IP address. I'm sure what you are seeing is people on different networks, not people on the same network. And they are behind a NAT device that is giving them a different IP address than the one that you are seeing. You will need to learn about NAT to understand how that is happening.

                  Which comes with the Network+ certificate (if im not mistaken) more so then A+ (right? I remember when I was studying for the Network+ cert it came up.. )

                  Correct. That will definitely be covered there.

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                    @WrCombs said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                    @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                    Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

                    No two people can have the same IP address. I'm sure what you are seeing is people on different networks, not people on the same network. And they are behind a NAT device that is giving them a different IP address than the one that you are seeing. You will need to learn about NAT to understand how that is happening.

                    Which comes with the Network+ certificate (if im not mistaken) more so then A+ (right? I remember when I was studying for the Network+ cert it came up.. )

                    Correct. That will definitely be covered there.

                    Will you be posting the Network + links for Professor Messer like you did with A+ ?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                      @WrCombs said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                      @WrCombs said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                      @connorsoliver said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001Prof Messer:

                      Also, I've seen that multiple people can have the same IP address, so how exactly does a server know where to send the data?

                      No two people can have the same IP address. I'm sure what you are seeing is people on different networks, not people on the same network. And they are behind a NAT device that is giving them a different IP address than the one that you are seeing. You will need to learn about NAT to understand how that is happening.

                      Which comes with the Network+ certificate (if im not mistaken) more so then A+ (right? I remember when I was studying for the Network+ cert it came up.. )

                      Correct. That will definitely be covered there.

                      Will you be posting the Network + links for Professor Messer like you did with A+ ?

                      Yup, we will be doing that along with the intern team moving into that material in the next few days after MangoCon wraps up.

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                      • maryM
                        mary
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                        Is there a way to tell if UDP or TCP is being used?

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                        • WrCombsW
                          WrCombs @mary
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                          @mary said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer:

                          Is there a way to tell if UDP or TCP is being used?

                          https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/24312/how-to-know-whether-a-protocol-uses-tcp-or-udp

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @WrCombs
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                            @WrCombs said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer:

                            @mary said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer:

                            Is there a way to tell if UDP or TCP is being used?

                            https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/24312/how-to-know-whether-a-protocol-uses-tcp-or-udp

                            https://i.imgur.com/REz82QR.png

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @mary
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                              @mary said in Introduction to IP - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer:

                              Is there a way to tell if UDP or TCP is being used?

                              In any given case, yes. You can tell because it is what you turn on, you can see it in the network traffic. It's different protocols so everything about it is different.

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                              • brianwinkelmannB
                                brianwinkelmann
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                                Very Interesting!

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                                • valentinaV
                                  valentina
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                                  This was very informative, I like the simplicity of the explanations. Also @scottalanmiller thanks for the extra feedback! I watched this a week ago btw

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