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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

      @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

      It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.

      Normally the system is pay ahead only, that he was able to port with no money on the account is odd. It is, under normal circumstances (and this is pretty standard for trunk providers for many reasons) standard to only allow you to pay ahead and send a notice when you are getting low on funds so that you can "top up", either manually or automatically. Under normal conditions here, I wouldn't expect a possibility of being in the negative.

      Correct. Hence why I assumed the $10 of the $10.11 was a new charge.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

        @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

        I wish that we had had a chance to speak about your frustration prior to you posting this on a public forum. Creating a "Skyetel is a Scam" post seriously hurts us and I would have rather treated this as an opportunity to introduce you to our customer service team.

        aka hidden it like your pricing.

        Well, more like hiding the fact that is clearly isn't a scam and you made a false statement. Yes, there was a mistake about the eleven cents. Good that that was tracked down. But a long thread where you are trying to act like you discovered a scam when clearly you have not, and it's all about eleven cents, it's crazy.

        If you believe that the issue is not the eleven cents but about the wrong services being on by default, then you must change the title or you are hiding what the thread is about. If you keep it, you are making it about eleven cents.

        Which is it?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

          @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

          @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

          It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.

          Normally the system is pay ahead only, that he was able to port with no money on the account is odd. It is, under normal circumstances (and this is pretty standard for trunk providers for many reasons) standard to only allow you to pay ahead and send a notice when you are getting low on funds so that you can "top up", either manually or automatically. Under normal conditions here, I wouldn't expect a possibility of being in the negative.

          Correct. Hence why I assumed the $10 of the $10.11 was a new charge.

          I agree that that would be confusing to see.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

            then you must change the title

            That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.

            I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of that.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

              That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.
              I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of th

              That is what it is, agreed that it doesn't change the quoted replies. But for someone coming to the thread and looking at the title as the source of "topic", I think that it will do a lot. It will make it clear that the issue was dug into, that "scam" is the wrong term, that there was something wrong that was discovered (and fixed it seems), and that while things weren't perfect, it's not a malicious activity and someone should read down the history of the thread and see what the result was. Otherwise, it is tempting to see the thread, and the title, and just assume too much.

              No change is perfect, but I think fixing the title can do a lot to clarify it.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                I wish that we had had a chance to speak about your frustration prior to you posting this on a public forum. Creating a "Skyetel is a Scam" post seriously hurts us and I would have rather treated this as an opportunity to introduce you to our customer service team.

                aka hidden it like your pricing.

                finish-him-JARED.jpg

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Skyetel
                  last edited by

                  @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                  @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                  I'm not surprised by the port in charge, no. But I was surprised a month later to find it still on my account as a negative amount.

                  Okay, just verifying that I understood what you mean. If you look at the April bill, do the charges not appear there? My current charges like number porting show up there, even before the invoice comes out.

                  This is correct - if you click on the month and change it to the current month, you'll see all "Transactions" we made on your account (like Port In fees or Purchasing a Phone Number)
                  Screen Shot 2019-04-29 at 1.43.20 PM.png

                  I saw it. I had no reason to click on it because I had nothing before March when I initiated the port request. I assumed it would not show April until after the month was over.

                  I see it shows all kinds of stuff.
                  16fee821-e28c-4b24-91ec-88f6ff52f78b-image.png

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch cool, yeah that was confusing for me at first, too. Since there isn't an April invoice, I wasn't thinking anything would be there.

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                    • SkyetelS
                      Skyetel @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                      @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                      That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.
                      I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of th

                      That is what it is, agreed that it doesn't change the quoted replies. But for someone coming to the thread and looking at the title as the source of "topic", I think that it will do a lot. It will make it clear that the issue was dug into, that "scam" is the wrong term, that there was something wrong that was discovered (and fixed it seems), and that while things weren't perfect, it's not a malicious activity and someone should read down the history of the thread and see what the result was. Otherwise, it is tempting to see the thread, and the title, and just assume too much.

                      No change is perfect, but I think fixing the title can do a lot to clarify it.

                      FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title 🙂

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                        Well, more like hiding the fact that is clearly isn't a scam and you made a false statement.

                        I made a statement that was factual based on all the information I had at the time. I in no way made an intentionally false statement.

                        I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                          I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.

                          Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                            @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                            I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.

                            Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.

                            Well then, I can strike that statement.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Skyetel
                              last edited by

                              @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                              FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title

                              You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks 🌶 !

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                              • SkyetelS
                                Skyetel @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title

                                You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks 🌶 !

                                lol - Thank God!

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Skyetel
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller are we allowed to use their name on the forums or no?

                                  I mean, I enjoy using SpiteWorks to call them out for the spiteful bastards they are, but still.

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                    @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                    FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title

                                    You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks 🌶 !

                                    If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                      last edited by

                                      @RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                      @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                      FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title

                                      You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks 🌶 !

                                      If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.

                                      That's true, that we were able to have a discourse about it is what makes this special. That and the speed of the platform.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                        I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.

                                        Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.

                                        Well then, I can strike that statement.

                                        And they are down. Hopefully the new scripts work, I break them about 25% of the time.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:

                                          @RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                          @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                          FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title

                                          You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks 🌶 !

                                          If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.

                                          That's true, that we were able to have a discourse about it is what makes this special. That and the speed of the platform.

                                          That and me being on hold for 2 hours allowing me the spare time to start to set up this SIP trunk.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:

                                            @RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                            @Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                            FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title

                                            You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks 🌶 !

                                            If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.

                                            That's true, that we were able to have a discourse about it is what makes this special. That and the speed of the platform.

                                            That and me being on hold for 2 hours allowing me the spare time to start to set up this SIP trunk.

                                            LMAO, good timing.

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