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      bnrstnr @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      SINCE UBIQUITI DOESN'T USE RESELLERS

      https://www.ui.com/distributors/

      They do, but it looks very limited.

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        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Sales is REALLY simple.

        1. You have to have something to sell.
        2. You convince someone to buy it that wasn't going to buy it on their own.
        3. You charge more than it would cost without needing to pay a sales person.

        That's it. It is step 1 we keep saying you need to think about.

        Another Office replied to his email with this.

        https://i.imgur.com/jHA1pzu.png

        Using it, yes. But selling it is the problem. You'd have to sell it as used, because you'd have to buy it, be the end customer, then sell it. Can cause all kinds of issues, like with warranties and stocking and accounting.

        Ok. So we can use it but we cant sell it. Got it.

        Exactly. Ubiquiti doesn't give anyone short of giant national warehouses a reseller license. So while it is great gear that consultants can get easily (from Amazon, PCM INgram Micro... anyone) it's not something that sales people want to deal with because they can't resell it like other gear, and they can't get reseller discounts on it, and they can't represent Ubiquiti to the customer. So it breaks the "sales process" and would likely be of no interest to someone paid out of a mechanism that doesn't exist here.

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          scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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          @bnrstnr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          SINCE UBIQUITI DOESN'T USE RESELLERS

          https://www.ui.com/distributors/

          They do, but it looks very limited.

          Yes, I said that they did initially, but only insanely large, national ones. The scale that you have to be at to qualify is crazy.

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          • EddieJenningsE
            EddieJennings
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            On a scoping call with Microsoft + our team members about upgrading System Center components.

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              DustinB3403 @EddieJennings
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              @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              On a scoping call with Microsoft + our team members about upgrading System Center components.

              Just uninstall em all. You know that's what the Microsoft people want to say, but they aren't allowed too.

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                dbeato
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                On Conference calls

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  On a scoping call with Microsoft + our team members about upgrading System Center components.

                  Just uninstall em all. You know that's what the Microsoft people want to say, but they aren't allowed too.

                  Ha! We live and breathe Microsoft here. These things aren't going away.

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                    WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Sales is REALLY simple.

                    1. You have to have something to sell.
                    2. You convince someone to buy it that wasn't going to buy it on their own.
                    3. You charge more than it would cost without needing to pay a sales person.

                    That's it. It is step 1 we keep saying you need to think about.

                    Another Office replied to his email with this.

                    https://i.imgur.com/jHA1pzu.png

                    Using it, yes. But selling it is the problem. You'd have to sell it as used, because you'd have to buy it, be the end customer, then sell it. Can cause all kinds of issues, like with warranties and stocking and accounting.

                    Ok. So we can use it but we cant sell it. Got it.

                    You can sell it, but it must legally be sold as "Used - never opened" because you aren't a licensed reseller! SINCE UBIQUITI DOESN'T USE RESELLERS

                    Do not yell at me.
                    I understand what you are saying .
                    ffs

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Sales is REALLY simple.

                      1. You have to have something to sell.
                      2. You convince someone to buy it that wasn't going to buy it on their own.
                      3. You charge more than it would cost without needing to pay a sales person.

                      That's it. It is step 1 we keep saying you need to think about.

                      Another Office replied to his email with this.

                      https://i.imgur.com/jHA1pzu.png

                      Using it, yes. But selling it is the problem. You'd have to sell it as used, because you'd have to buy it, be the end customer, then sell it. Can cause all kinds of issues, like with warranties and stocking and accounting.

                      Ok. So we can use it but we cant sell it. Got it.

                      You can sell it, but it must legally be sold as "Used - never opened" because you aren't a licensed reseller! SINCE UBIQUITI DOESN'T USE RESELLERS

                      Do not yell at me.
                      I understand what you are saying .
                      ffs

                      Certainly doesn't seem like it, have you had enough coffee this morning?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

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                          WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

                          feeling better now?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

                            feeling better now?

                            No, not really. Quit being a dumbass and have more coffee.

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                              WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

                              It was a 10 minute conversation because the sales guy asked for suggestions on what to use for an AP for a new software.
                              I gave him the information on Ubquiti ( like I always do ) and said something about it here.
                              he asked for a suggestion, I gave him one. Made a post about it and everyone jumps on it telling me Im wrong when i gave a suggestion.
                              Nothing more, nothing less- Am I sure he knew that by looking? sure, But it was a suggestion, as that's what he wanted.
                              But no, continue to tell me how wrong I am .

                              thanks for the information though.

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                                WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

                                feeling better now?

                                No, not really. Quit being a dumbass and have more coffee.

                                How exactly was I being a dumbass?
                                because I made a post about it.
                                You're absolutely right.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

                                  feeling better now?

                                  No, not really. Quit being a dumbass and have more coffee.

                                  How exactly was I being a dumbass?
                                  because I made a post about it.
                                  You're absolutely right.

                                  Because, a 5 minute investigation into the sales practices would've told you enough that reselling isn't viable. But you can recommend and support the equipment, just not sell it direct.

                                  Have your sales dick look at it in the approach of "Ubiquiti is enterprise grade gear, but due to volume limits we can't sell direct but can sell our advice on what equipment to use and we can also support said recommendations with professional support."

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                                    RojoLoco
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                                    Trying to freshen up the OS on a 2016 VM that has become super slow and barely responsive. I would have rebuilt it from scratch, but the last time I did that, there were tons of complaints from dev and testing departments.

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                                      JaredBusch @bnrstnr
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      @bnrstnr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      SINCE UBIQUITI DOESN'T USE RESELLERS

                                      https://www.ui.com/distributors/

                                      They do, but it looks very limited.

                                      Distributors are not the same thing at all. Technically, a reseller? Yes.

                                      But that is how the entire distribution channel works.

                                      The term "Reseller" implies, to most people, smaller partner agents.

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                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @bnrstnr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        SINCE UBIQUITI DOESN'T USE RESELLERS

                                        https://www.ui.com/distributors/

                                        They do, but it looks very limited.

                                        Distributors are not the same thing at all. Technically, a reseller? Yes.

                                        But that is how the entire distribution channel works.

                                        The term "Reseller" implies, to most people, smaller partner agents.

                                        His list goes to the distributor page, but lower on that page are resellers, too. I had to look to see what was there, but it has both.

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                                          WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          An entire 10 minute conversation about how, we know your business can't sell Ubiquiti equipment, for you eventually say "Oh that's what you mean by sell" for us to all have a 🤦 .

                                          feeling better now?

                                          No, not really. Quit being a dumbass and have more coffee.

                                          How exactly was I being a dumbass?
                                          because I made a post about it.
                                          You're absolutely right.

                                          Because, a 5 minute investigation into the sales practices would've told you enough that reselling isn't viable. But you can recommend and support the equipment, just not sell it direct.

                                          Have your sales dick look at it in the approach of "Ubiquiti is enterprise grade gear, but due to volume limits we can't sell direct but can sell our advice on what equipment to use and we can also support said recommendations with professional support."

                                          what's funny is I never said anything about reselling or selling the equipment.
                                          I said I was trying to convince the salesman to go to with unifi ap's rather than cisco.

                                          reselling came about from you guys, Not me.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            I said I was trying to convince the salesman to go to with unifi ap's rather than cisco.

                                            What purpose does the sale guy have to the conversation if not to be convinced to sell something?

                                            FFS

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