Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First
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@DustinB3403 said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
I always have newest on first. Outlook defaults to conversation view, which is also newest on top.
Conversation view is just useless, though. That's a separate question, why does that exist? Everyone who uses it loses emails. It's like "email for people who weren't going to read or respond anyway."
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
that exist? Everyone who uses it loses emails. It's like "email for people who weren't going to read or respond anyway."
I don't I read the newest one. I hate conversation view. Android though through the Gmail app goes to the oldest email for me... it is annoying.
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
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@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
The default in outlook is "Conversations view" and that's not the same as "newest first".
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@DustinB3403 said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
The default in outlook is "Conversations view" and that's not the same as "newest first".
Yes it is. The newest mail you receive in the conversation is what it is sorted by. It works great for me.
If I need to find an older email, I'll search and find it quicker anyways, instead of guessing the date and scrolling around trying to find it.
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@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
A lot of things aren't that way. Thunderbird for example, is oldest first. I don't know what all, because I change everything to newest first once I start using it.
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@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@DustinB3403 said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
The default in outlook is "Conversations view" and that's not the same as "newest first".
Yes it is. The newest mail you receive in the conversation is what it is sorted by. It works great for me.
If I need to find an older email, I'll search and find it quicker anyways, instead of guessing the date and scrolling around trying to find it.
I think Google is newest first email, but oldest first inside the conversation making it supremely confusing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
A lot of things aren't that way. Thunderbird for example, is oldest first. I don't know what all, because I change everything to newest first once I start using it.
OMG that's right! I remember that now. Yeah, TB is oldest first and I always thought that was the dumbest thing, and the first thing I change.
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@DustinB3403 said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
The default in outlook is "Conversations view" and that's not the same as "newest first".
Yes it is. The newest mail you receive in the conversation is what it is sorted by. It works great for me.
If I need to find an older email, I'll search and find it quicker anyways, instead of guessing the date and scrolling around trying to find it.
I think Google is newest first email, but oldest first inside the conversation making it supremely confusing.
No, I currently use conversation view in Google and have not changed the default sorting. Conversation view does show the newest first. That's the one it shows in the list.
When you click into the email itself, it shows newest at the bottom, automatically takes you there, and hides the rest.
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@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@DustinB3403 said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
The default in outlook is "Conversations view" and that's not the same as "newest first".
Yes it is. The newest mail you receive in the conversation is what it is sorted by. It works great for me.
If I need to find an older email, I'll search and find it quicker anyways, instead of guessing the date and scrolling around trying to find it.
I think Google is newest first email, but oldest first inside the conversation making it supremely confusing.
No, I currently use conversation view in Google and have not changed the default sorting. Conversation view does show the newest first. That's the one it shows in the list.
When you click into the email itself, it shows newest at the bottom, automatically takes you there, and hides the rest.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, their interface isn't consistent (other than being consistently the worst email experience ever made.) Slow and a train wreck. Constant pop ups, needing to go to different screens for things, OMG I've never hated any messaging system more. Google, I swear, is a secret Microsoft project to make people love Exchange. I never realized how good Exchange was till I had to use Gmail for something. Then it is like "Oh, Exchange is really just fine."
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@DustinB3403 said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
What? I've never seen that. The default in Google and Outlook is newest first. The only thing that makes sense so you don't have to scroll to the bottom every time to check mail.
The default in outlook is "Conversations view" and that's not the same as "newest first".
Yes it is. The newest mail you receive in the conversation is what it is sorted by. It works great for me.
If I need to find an older email, I'll search and find it quicker anyways, instead of guessing the date and scrolling around trying to find it.
I think Google is newest first email, but oldest first inside the conversation making it supremely confusing.
No, I currently use conversation view in Google and have not changed the default sorting. Conversation view does show the newest first. That's the one it shows in the list.
When you click into the email itself, it shows newest at the bottom, automatically takes you there, and hides the rest.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, their interface isn't consistent (other than being consistently the worst email experience ever made.) Slow and a train wreck. Constant pop ups, needing to go to different screens for things, OMG I've never hated any messaging system more. Google, I swear, is a secret Microsoft project to make people love Exchange. I never realized how good Exchange was till I had to use Gmail for something. Then it is like "Oh, Exchange is really just fine."
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@Obsolesce yeah, oldest first in that view. The problem with CV is that you get your email list twice, not once. One is newest first, one is oldest first.
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I think Evolution defaults to oldest email first.
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@black3dynamite said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
I think Evolution defaults to oldest email first.
It does! I worked with that like two days ago and then saw something else do it to. Evolution doing it was one of the things that prompted me to really think about it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
Yes, I want them in chronological order. Just like this thread is.
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@Pete-S said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Seriously, does anyone actually read their email that way?
Yes, I want them in chronological order. Just like this thread is.
Ah, so perhaps ML should be sorted by newest first, and every post separate, rather than grouped by thread (conversation), and post at the end? LOL
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@scottalanmiller said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Conversation view is just useless,
Just want to say I've also hated conversation view. Very hard to find that email and lots of time a repy to an email thread goes off on something else then it gets buried in the thread and impossible to find.
On a related mater. Why can't Outlook & OWA search feature be combined! OWA has better search but takes times to be indexed. Outlook search simply suck balls.
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Does nobody use search? Not that I really ever need to use it, but when I do, it's instant and works 100% of the time.
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@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Does nobody use search? Not that I really ever need to use it, but when I do, it's instant and works 100% of the time.
Search isn't the issue (at least for me personally) I use it constantly and while it works 99% of the time. If I'm searching the wrong thing, then a search won't turn up the results I want.
That is where folders come in, as you can name and view your folders so you don't have to remember the search criteria for that 1 email.
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@Obsolesce said in Why Do Email Readers Always Default to Oldest Email First:
Does nobody use search? Not that I really ever need to use it, but when I do, it's instant and works 100% of the time.
After 1 month with a new email account, I have enough sitting around that search starts taking a long time and is nowhere near instant. I'm kinda jealous that you have that little email filtering through.
