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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 You're not of no help, just that we've already seen that and knew about it.

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        1337
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        Check what kind of encoding you have on the source material you're editing.
        It's possible that the machine is not powerful enough to do real time preview on that format.

        Could also that some new filter or effect is applied so the machine can't render it in real time.

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          1337
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          First thing to do would be to check some old files that worked fine before (on the same version) to determine if it is something that has changed, or if it's just that the demands are higher than the system can handle.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            So the off part is that even with allowing AE to use 50 GB of RAM for the preview and with the SSD disk cache the system isn't getting taxed.

            At most 16GB get used

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              1337 @DustinB3403
              last edited by 1337

              @DustinB3403 said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

              So the off part is that even with allowing AE to use 50 GB of RAM for the preview and with the SSD disk cache the system isn't getting taxed.

              At most 16GB get used

              Rendering has not much to do with RAM (as long as there is enough for the application).
              CPU speed, GPU speed and disk speed.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                This I get, but it's all rendered out and even on subsequent plays (changing nothing) the preview is still horrible.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                    @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                    @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

                    Adobe recommends Windows for production use.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @1337
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                      @Pete-S said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                      So the off part is that even with allowing AE to use 50 GB of RAM for the preview and with the SSD disk cache the system isn't getting taxed.

                      At most 16GB get used

                      Rendering has not much to do with RAM (as long as there is enough for the application).
                      CPU speed, GPU speed and disk speed.

                      And GPU more than anything in modern apps.

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                        @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                        @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

                        Adobe recommends Windows for production use.

                        I know, and I laughed for a long time when they announced that.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
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                          @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                          @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

                          This is on a PC with a GTX 1080 8GB of ram.

                          Also the preview gets loaded into RAM, and is off of the GPU. So it really should only matter when rendering. Not when on continued playback.

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                            @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                            @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

                            This is on a PC with a GTX 1080 8GB of ram.

                            Also the preview gets loaded into RAM, and is off of the GPU. So it really should only matter when rendering. Not when on continued playback.

                            And that is a gaming GPU. Our guy who does all the AE stuff here has a Dell Precision desktop with a FirePro something in it, made for doing video editing stuff more than gaming.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
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                              @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                              @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                              @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

                              This is on a PC with a GTX 1080 8GB of ram.

                              Also the preview gets loaded into RAM, and is off of the GPU. So it really should only matter when rendering. Not when on continued playback.

                              And that is a gaming GPU. Our guy who does all the AE stuff here has a Dell Precision desktop with a FirePro something in it, made for doing video editing stuff more than gaming.

                              This is true. .

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                But it still only would make sense to cause this spike to "Not realtime" during preview if it was during the rendering operation to get the preview.

                                Not once it has rendered out.

                                (also I didn't build/buy/recommend any of the hardware)

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                                  But it still only would make sense to cause this spike to "Not realtime" during preview if it was during the rendering operation to get the preview.

                                  Not once it has rendered out.

                                  (also I didn't build/buy/recommend any of the hardware)

                                  The hardware we use here is a Precision T5810, Xeon E5-1607 v3 @3.10gHz, FirePro W4100, 32GB RAM. The user has never had a complaint.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                    @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                                    @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                                    @DustinB3403 sounds like a shitty GPU. You should probably be running AE on a windows box with a badass workstation GPU, works a charm.

                                    Adobe recommends Windows for production use.

                                    I know, and I laughed for a long time when they announced that.

                                    It was always better on Windows, they just finally had to put their foot down because so many people claimed that they were getting Mac for Adobe and it's the most ridiculous claim as neither the vendor recommends it, nor does it run as well.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller the vendor did recommend Mac in the early days, that's why people got it twisted.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                        @RojoLoco said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                                        @scottalanmiller the vendor did recommend Mac in the early days, that's why people got it twisted.

                                        Did they? I think they just supported it, not recommended it.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Adobe After Effects - Preview is not real time:

                                          But it still only would make sense to cause this spike to "Not realtime" during preview if it was during the rendering operation to get the preview.

                                          Not once it has rendered out.

                                          (also I didn't build/buy/recommend any of the hardware)

                                          It HAS to render the preview at some point. Just doesn't tell you that, and the preview is supposed to be small enough that the render can happen in real time. Doesn't always work out that way, obviously.

                                          If this is running on a MAC, I guarantee the video card is not adequate for running AE. The only thing Apple sells that has enough GPU for AE is the MacPro with FirePro graphics, and those cards are old at this point, in addition to being even more overpriced than other Apple things.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller mid to late 90s. absolutely. I graduated with my audio degree end of '96, literally EVERY VENDOR had Apple's ball juice conspicuously on their chin. According to "the industry" at that time, nobody could record multitrack audio, use photoshop/after effects / premiere etc, or do any kind of multimedia production without a Mac. My personal mission since then has been to shit all over that mindset.

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