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    Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?

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      1337 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:

      @jmoore said in Where to read Code?:

      C++ is systems programming.

      System programming is almost always C, not C++. C is the big one that nearly everything big from Linux to Solaris to Windows to the big databases are written in. C++ is slower and sillier and while people say it a lot, almost no one actually uses it. It's dying away.

      Where C++ used to make sense has been mostly replaced with some combination of Java, C#, Objective-C and Swift directly and loads of other languages indirectly.

      If you want to learn real programming I'd say knowing C is mandatory. Most people developers I know can program a bunch of different languages. Most languages are just a variation of something older.

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        Obsolesce @jmoore
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        @jmoore said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

        @WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:

        Is HTML and CSS a starting place though?

        In my opinion, take that for what its worth, html and css is not a good starting point. I say that because , to me, its just visual formatting and not programming. Its what people who consider themselves artists do in the tech world. Again, this is just my opinion, but of you want to learn programming do c, c++, python, or ruby. C is what Linux is based on if I remember right. C++ is systems programming. Python and Ruby are used for most everything else including web, scripting, and data science. Now those 4 languages all serve different purposes and each do things differently. So consider what might be interesting to you and try it out.

        I wouldn't start with C or C++, unless you really need to build programs that that take advantage of the benefits like better performance and memory handling, I'd go C# first otherwise.

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          WrCombs
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          Ideas for Practicing Python?
          Im not sure what i can do to really get into it.. ya know?

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @WrCombs
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            @WrCombs said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

            Ideas for Practicing Python?
            Im not sure what i can do to really get into it.. ya know?

            Make it build a web page to calculate something you interested in.

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              wirestyle22 @WrCombs
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              @WrCombs This is what a lot of my friends who code for dropbox, weebly, etc strongly suggest in regards to python:

              https://learnpythonthehardway.org/

              I got it. It's written but it also has video/audio tutorials, etc. Pretty great.

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                EddieJennings @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                @WrCombs This is what a lot of my friends who code for dropbox, weebly, etc strongly suggest in regards to python:

                https://learnpythonthehardway.org/

                I got it. It's written but it also has video/audio tutorials, etc. Pretty great.

                One day I'll get around to going through that course.

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                  wirestyle22 @EddieJennings
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                  @EddieJennings said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                  @WrCombs This is what a lot of my friends who code for dropbox, weebly, etc strongly suggest in regards to python:

                  https://learnpythonthehardway.org/

                  I got it. It's written but it also has video/audio tutorials, etc. Pretty great.

                  One day I'll get around to going through that course.

                  It's very good. I wish I practiced more, I forget most of it but at the time I was very impressed with it.

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                    @EddieJennings said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                    @WrCombs This is what a lot of my friends who code for dropbox, weebly, etc strongly suggest in regards to python:

                    https://learnpythonthehardway.org/

                    I got it. It's written but it also has video/audio tutorials, etc. Pretty great.

                    One day I'll get around to going through that course.

                    It's very good. I wish I practiced more, I forget most of it but at the time I was very impressed with it.

                    I purchased the PDF of the Python3 course probably a year ago or so.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                      @WrCombs said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                      Ideas for Practicing Python?
                      Im not sure what i can do to really get into it.. ya know?

                      Write a MadLibs program!

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @WrCombs
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                        @WrCombs said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                        Ideas for Practicing Python?
                        Im not sure what i can do to really get into it.. ya know?

                        Basically all raspberry pi projects are done in python. There are tons of websites out there that showcase peoples projects.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                          Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                          I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

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                            I started with Learn Python the Hard Way. In order to get OOP I had to do a lot of playing with it. But after that it became natural to me and now I can't imagine how it took so long for me to get.

                            My first real personal project was a local job web scraper that posted to Facebook. When you go through learning material you should always have a project in mind/on the back burner that you can mentally (and then actually) apply what you are learning to.

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                              flaxking @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                              Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                              I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                              What language did you learn first?

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                                Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                                I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                                Because formatting. I don't see that as a deal breaker though.

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                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                  @Obsolesce said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                  Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                                  I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                                  Because formatting. I don't see that as a deal breaker though.

                                  I actually find it very valuable for beginners.

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                    Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                                    I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                                    Yes, You did. I made note.
                                    I'm not exactly a fan of it.. completely honest

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @flaxking
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                                      @flaxking said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                      Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                                      I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                                      What language did you learn first?

                                      Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                                      Then, when I bought Windows 95 in the fall of 95, I also bought the VB4 book and proceeded to teach myself.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @flaxking
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                                        @flaxking said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                        When you go through learning material you should always have a project in mind/on the back burner that you can mentally (and then actually) apply what you are learning to.

                                        This is the most important thing.

                                        You have to have an actual goal. When I was teaching myself VB4, I had ideas but no goals.

                                        It definitely made things slower and I did give up without learning as much as I could have at the time.

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                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                          Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                                          Given your age, I can only imagine you used a late model TRS80 and not the shitty model I from 1977. If I'm right, then it was "standard" Microsoft BASIC.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                            Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                                            Given your age, I can only imagine you used a late model TRS80 and not the shitty model I from 1977. If I'm right, then it was "standard" Microsoft BASIC.

                                            I'm fairly certain it was TRSDOS, but mid 80's was a long time ago....

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