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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      BTW... "Get-Uptime" isn't found on Windows 10 1809 fresh install.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Speed of uptime on Linux. This is bash calling SSH calling bash...

        ssh2bash_uptime.gif

        One second. Most of that time is used to set up SSH, nothing to do with Bash.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          BTW... "Get-Uptime" isn't found on Windows 10 1809 fresh install.

          IT is a script that needs to be downloaded 😞
          https://gist.githubusercontent.com/morisy/8aa34f4ba0beaf8eef1b9224c616e041/raw/4644b875e9e5393f25b0fe79e24129eec5654f7e/Get-Uptime.ps1

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Like what? I did a Get-Uptime cmd and it was instant. If it was any faster, I wouldn't notice.

            It's not instant. Are you sure you didn't spend time getting PS up and running first, THEN time only the command after all the time was already spent?

            No, I did the exact same thing I'd have done on a Linux GUI....

            1. Click on PowerShell on the task bar to open it up. (keybind would work too)
            2. Typed in Get-Uptime -Since, hit enter.
            3. Maybe I saved a little time typing with PowerShell because of tab-completion. I only typed get-up <tab> -<tab> then enter.
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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Like what? I did a Get-Uptime cmd and it was instant. If it was any faster, I wouldn't notice.

              It's not instant. Are you sure you didn't spend time getting PS up and running first, THEN time only the command after all the time was already spent?

              No, I did the exact same thing I'd have done on a Linux GUI....

              1. Click on PowerShell on the task bar to open it up. (keybind would work too)
              2. Typed in Get-Uptime -Since, hit enter.
              3. Maybe I saved a little time typing with PowerShell because of tab-completion. I only typed get-up <tab> -<tab> then enter.

              Weird,
              a1edcda7-259d-41f9-8ce3-53a38c01d75a-image.png

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @dbeato
                last edited by

                @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Like what? I did a Get-Uptime cmd and it was instant. If it was any faster, I wouldn't notice.

                It's not instant. Are you sure you didn't spend time getting PS up and running first, THEN time only the command after all the time was already spent?

                No, I did the exact same thing I'd have done on a Linux GUI....

                1. Click on PowerShell on the task bar to open it up. (keybind would work too)
                2. Typed in Get-Uptime -Since, hit enter.
                3. Maybe I saved a little time typing with PowerShell because of tab-completion. I only typed get-up <tab> -<tab> then enter.

                Weird,
                a1edcda7-259d-41f9-8ce3-53a38c01d75a-image.png

                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

                c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by Obsolesce

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Speed of uptime on Linux. This is bash calling SSH calling bash...

                  ssh2bash_uptime.gif

                  One second. Most of that time is used to set up SSH, nothing to do with Bash.

                  I can do that exact same thing in PowerShell on Win10 now that SSH works by default 🙂

                  word for word... letter for letter.... in PowerShell.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    I can do that exact same thing in PowerShell on Win10 now that SSH works by default
                    word for word... letter for letter.... in PowerShell.

                    I've been ABLE to do it for a while. It's the speed that isn't there. We use PowerShell over SSH every day (until a few weeks ago when PS totally broke and our long standing processes all failed because Windows didn't keep PS consistent.) But it is still crazy slow compared to any other platform. Certainly an improvement, joining us with late 1990s technology. But it doesn't address the speed issue.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      I can do that exact same thing in PowerShell on Win10 now that SSH works by default
                      word for word... letter for letter.... in PowerShell.

                      I've been ABLE to do it for a while. It's the speed that isn't there. We use PowerShell over SSH every day (until a few weeks ago when PS totally broke and our long standing processes all failed because Windows didn't keep PS consistent.) But it is still crazy slow compared to any other platform. Certainly an improvement, joining us with late 1990s technology. But it doesn't address the speed issue.

                      0959ffb8-6cbc-49a3-9e91-6e05668eeb60-image.png

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        It did it above instantly (minus asking for password, just a test machine don't have that set up)

                        I noticed zero speed difference than when I do it on Linux with BASH.

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Like what? I did a Get-Uptime cmd and it was instant. If it was any faster, I wouldn't notice.

                          It's not instant. Are you sure you didn't spend time getting PS up and running first, THEN time only the command after all the time was already spent?

                          No, I did the exact same thing I'd have done on a Linux GUI....

                          1. Click on PowerShell on the task bar to open it up. (keybind would work too)
                          2. Typed in Get-Uptime -Since, hit enter.
                          3. Maybe I saved a little time typing with PowerShell because of tab-completion. I only typed get-up <tab> -<tab> then enter.

                          Weird,
                          a1edcda7-259d-41f9-8ce3-53a38c01d75a-image.png

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                          No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                          a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                          Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                          I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                          No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

                          c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

                          Yeah, I have only 5.1
                          b66a2247-b548-456d-b48a-9aaf461e102a-image.png

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dbeato
                            last edited by

                            @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Like what? I did a Get-Uptime cmd and it was instant. If it was any faster, I wouldn't notice.

                            It's not instant. Are you sure you didn't spend time getting PS up and running first, THEN time only the command after all the time was already spent?

                            No, I did the exact same thing I'd have done on a Linux GUI....

                            1. Click on PowerShell on the task bar to open it up. (keybind would work too)
                            2. Typed in Get-Uptime -Since, hit enter.
                            3. Maybe I saved a little time typing with PowerShell because of tab-completion. I only typed get-up <tab> -<tab> then enter.

                            Weird,
                            a1edcda7-259d-41f9-8ce3-53a38c01d75a-image.png

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                            No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                            a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                            Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                            I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                            No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

                            c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

                            Yeah, I have only 5.1
                            b66a2247-b548-456d-b48a-9aaf461e102a-image.png

                            that's because PSC6 is not a part of any OS natively. It is a new "add on", optional side by side installation that you can add to Windows or Linux.

                            So yes, it is available. but it is not standard or built in, so things like Get-Uptime are not yet part of Windows.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              It did it above instantly (minus asking for password, just a test machine don't have that set up)

                              I noticed zero speed difference than when I do it on Linux with BASH.

                              That's because you specifically skipped the whole problem. You didn't time PS setting up, you set it up, then timed bash. Of course it came back fast, it was bash not PS that you timed!

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Like what? I did a Get-Uptime cmd and it was instant. If it was any faster, I wouldn't notice.

                                It's not instant. Are you sure you didn't spend time getting PS up and running first, THEN time only the command after all the time was already spent?

                                No, I did the exact same thing I'd have done on a Linux GUI....

                                1. Click on PowerShell on the task bar to open it up. (keybind would work too)
                                2. Typed in Get-Uptime -Since, hit enter.
                                3. Maybe I saved a little time typing with PowerShell because of tab-completion. I only typed get-up <tab> -<tab> then enter.

                                Weird,
                                a1edcda7-259d-41f9-8ce3-53a38c01d75a-image.png

                                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                                No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                                a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                                Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                                I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                                No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

                                c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

                                Yeah, I have only 5.1
                                b66a2247-b548-456d-b48a-9aaf461e102a-image.png

                                that's because PSC6 is not a part of any OS natively. It is a new "add on", optional side by side installation that you can add to Windows or Linux.

                                So yes, it is available. but it is not standard or built in, so things like Get-Uptime are not yet part of Windows.

                                But what we are currently talking about, SSH, works on 5.1 anyways.

                                Earlier was one specific well-known case.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  But what we are currently talking about, SSH, works on 5.1 anyways.

                                  The discussion is about how slow PS is. All mentioning of SSH was that Bash was SO much faster than PS, that I'm able to SSH to remote boxes and run a bash command and tear down the SSH tunnel all faster than PS can launch.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    It did it above instantly (minus asking for password, just a test machine don't have that set up)

                                    I noticed zero speed difference than when I do it on Linux with BASH.

                                    That's because you specifically skipped the whole problem. You didn't time PS setting up, you set it up, then timed bash. Of course it came back fast, it was bash not PS that you timed!

                                    I didn't set up PowerShell... what do you mean by set it up?

                                    PowerShell opens the same speed as terminal opens before I start typing. Am I missing something or some context from somewhere?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      I didn't set up PowerShell... what do you mean by set it up?

                                      You sure did, it's there on the screen. Can't be if you didn't set it up. PowerShell's slowness almost entirely comes from its load time.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        But what we are currently talking about, SSH, works on 5.1 anyways.

                                        The discussion is about how slow PS is. All mentioning of SSH was that Bash was SO much faster than PS, that I'm able to SSH to remote boxes and run a bash command and tear down the SSH tunnel all faster than PS can launch.

                                        I asked for a real example, you gave SSH.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          I asked for a real example, you gave SSH

                                          No, I gave Uptime

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            I asked for a real example, you gave SSH

                                            No, I gave Uptime

                                            Via SSH. Which is the same when done through PowerShell.

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