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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
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      xml file shows the disks as IDE.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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        @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

        @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

        @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

        @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

        @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

        I tried using virt-v2v to convert, for some odd reason, virt-v2v thinks the disks are virtio!!

        VirtIO is what you would want. I assume that the V2V process is failing, though?

        Funny enough, v2v does not fail!

        So you get a working VM? What's the issue then?

        No working vm, vm will not boot, says it can't find the disks

        Oh, so the V2V process fails then. That's what I meant. It didn't result in a working system.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee in theory you can remap the drives manually 🙂

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
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            # virt-v2v -i ova vProtect-Generic.ova -o libvirt -of qcow2 -os VirtualMachines
            [   0.0] Opening the source -i ova vProtect-Generic.ova
            virt-v2v: warning: making OVA directory public readable to work around 
            libvirt bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1045069
            [   3.5] Creating an overlay to protect the source from being modified
            [   3.7] Opening the overlay
            [   7.6] Inspecting the overlay
            [  23.7] Checking for sufficient free disk space in the guest
            [  23.7] Estimating space required on target for each disk
            [  23.7] Converting CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810 (Core)  to run on KVM
            virt-v2v: This guest has virtio drivers installed.
            [  88.9] Mapping filesystem data to avoid copying unused and blank areas
            [  89.8] Closing the overlay
            [  90.0] Assigning disks to buses
            [  90.0] Checking if the guest needs BIOS or UEFI to boot
            [  90.0] Initializing the target -o libvirt -os VirtualMachines
            [  90.1] Copying disk 1/2 to /vm/vProtect-sda (qcow2)
                (100.00/100%)
            [ 108.3] Copying disk 2/2 to /vm/vProtect-sdb (qcow2)
                (100.00/100%)
            [ 126.1] Creating output metadata
            Pool VirtualMachines refreshed
            
            Domain vProtect defined from /tmp/v2vlibvirtc251bd.xml
            
            [ 126.3] Finishing off
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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              You are trying to install vProtect the agentless backup product for KVM?

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                You are trying to install vProtect the agentless backup product for KVM?

                Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.
                Trying to convert the ova to qcow2
                Quicker than installing the app from scratch.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                  @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                  Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                  Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                    @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                    Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                    Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

                    Why am I looking at the application?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                      @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                      Quicker than installing the app from scratch.

                      Is it? You still need to get to VirtIO in the end. And you want a reliable method for the future. I would not want to do it this way unless there was no other choice.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                        @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                        @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                        Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                        Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

                        Why am I looking at the application?

                        Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                          @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                          Quicker than installing the app from scratch.

                          Is it? You still need to get to VirtIO in the end. And you want a reliable method for the future. I would not want to do it this way unless there was no other choice.

                          For lab testing, this method "should" have been faster!

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                            Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                            Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

                            Why am I looking at the application?

                            Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

                            Not too many other choices out there!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                              @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                              @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                              Quicker than installing the app from scratch.

                              Is it? You still need to get to VirtIO in the end. And you want a reliable method for the future. I would not want to do it this way unless there was no other choice.

                              For lab testing, this method "should" have been faster!

                              I'm not sure that I agree. Pre-built appliances are nearly always a massive pain and they aren't a good process for testing end to end. So more work up front, more work later. I generally dislike them a lot. Faster they never seem to be.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                                Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

                                Why am I looking at the application?

                                Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

                                Not too many other choices out there!

                                What do you mean? There are endless awesome choices. This just isn't one of them. Why do you perceive a shortage of backup options?

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                  Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                                  Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

                                  Why am I looking at the application?

                                  Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

                                  Not too many other choices out there!

                                  What do you mean? There are endless awesome choices. This just isn't one of them. Why do you perceive a shortage of backup options?

                                  List them out for me, please

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Crash Consistent is the issue here, that I would see. When there are "real" backups that are full, rather than non-quiesced, why bother taking a backup if it isn't reliable? Reliability is the biggest factor in whether you consider a backup useful. It's not like you could use this and tell a client that you took a backup.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                      @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                      Kinda, they have an appliance (prepackaged ova exported from ESXi), I was going to test it.

                                      Crash consistent only, I'd not use that. Why are you looking at it?

                                      Why am I looking at the application?

                                      Yes, why are you looking at a crash-consistent "backup" tool?

                                      Not too many other choices out there!

                                      What do you mean? There are endless awesome choices. This just isn't one of them. Why do you perceive a shortage of backup options?

                                      List them out for me, please

                                      Veeam
                                      Unitrends
                                      StorageCraft
                                      UrBackup
                                      BackupPC
                                      Amanda
                                      Bacula
                                      BackupExec
                                      CloudBerry Backup
                                      Cobian
                                      Commvault
                                      NetWorker
                                      Spectrum Protect
                                      Netbackup
                                      Yosemite

                                      Hundreds more, these are just the really big names.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        In bold are the four that I would find most interesting and would only very rarely consider anything further. They range from free to pricy, self supported to enterprise support, and cover basically any possible scenario. Beyond those, I've had a lot of good luck with Netbackup in the enterprise.

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                          In bold are the four that I would find most interesting and would only very rarely consider anything further. They range from free to pricy, self supported to enterprise support, and cover basically any possible scenario. Beyond those, I've had a lot of good luck with Netbackup in the enterprise.

                                          Should have said, I prefer agentless!!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                            @FATeknollogee said in Virt-manager: IDE disks:

                                            Should have said, I prefer agentless!!

                                            Which, in this case is the same as saying "I prefer it not to work."

                                            Agentless isn't an option here, period. Beyond that, why you have a "preference" for this kind of thing is an additional problem. IT should not have preferences, we should want proper solutions, however they work. Desiring a specific way of doing it, that can't be done, is an emotional mismatch.

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