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    • J
      justin867
      last edited by

      Hi,
      I'm looking for CCTV standalone NVR. I have experience using Acti NVR's but I'm looking for another NVR that will support most IP camera like HIKVision IP cameras like this Hikvision DS-2CD IP camera

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      • hobbit666H
        hobbit666
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        @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

        HIKVision

        Most of our site use the HIKVision NVR's with their camera's
        https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074JD1TTS/ref=asc_df_B074JD1TTS58711157/?tag=googshopuk-21&creative=22122&creativeASIN=B074JD1TTS&linkCode=df0&hvadid=218073864227&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4482884291973245661&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007449&hvtargid=pla-558121349709

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        • J
          justin867
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          I'm looking for NVR that can support 16 to 32 IP cameras.

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          • hobbit666H
            hobbit666
            last edited by

            These can handle 32 cameras
            https://www.hikvision.com/en/Products/Network-Video-Recorder/7700/DS-7700NI-I4

            With things like this i like to use the same manufacturer. But i guess if they are IP cameras they should be compatible with most NVR's

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @justin867
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              @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

              I'm looking for NVR that can support 16 to 32 IP cameras.

              I would recommend not using one NVR for 32 cameras... One system is a single point of failure, and if you need to have that coverage, you are in a mess should it go down...

              Better I would think to split it, so in the even you lose one, you can shift the critical feeds to the second unit.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Are you looking for an appliance? If you're willing to install it yourself I'd look at zoneminder and avoid the appliance route.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  The exact camera you linked is on the ZM HCL as well.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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                    @gjacobse said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                    @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                    I'm looking for NVR that can support 16 to 32 IP cameras.

                    I would recommend not using one NVR for 32 cameras... One system is a single point of failure, and if you need to have that coverage, you are in a mess should it go down...

                    Better I would think to split it, so in the even you lose one, you can shift the critical feeds to the second unit.

                    Just virtualize it, and create backups of anything you need. Use a NAS as the storage for the video if you don't/can't supply enough storage on the VM.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      A security system would fall into the category of critical. (at least in my opinion). So using an appliance you'd get from Amazon or BestBuy aren't business level systems.

                      Those are the consumer approach and are meant to last for a few years at best, and will operate horribly.

                      This type of workload, while intensive for the IOPS for 32 cameras would be ideal to be managed from a VM. You can backup the VM, and have the platform write directly to a dedicated NAS which has the IOPS for this purpose.

                      If your hypervisor has the performance (and storage capacity to spare) you could keep everything locally and you'd never have any issue. Besides maybe backup.

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                        scotth
                        last edited by scotth

                        Good ideas here, all.

                        I vehemently avoid the appliance route. I can, with parts on hand, replace/repair a system at a site (we have 24) in never more than 1 day, usually several hours. We have a PC on the shelf to shove out when needed.

                        I was called by a former employee last year to look at an NVR appliance at her location (new job) because they couldn't connect to it. The ethernet port was borked. The device had a mainboard with everything soldered to it. No slots, nada, zip, nothing. The company that installed it said that they would gladly replace it for them for $2200 since they couldn't repair the one in service.

                        I use GeoVision (it was here when we began to install these) and they work fine. I have analog HikVision cameras mixed in feeding an 8 port video server made by GeoVision that connect via ethernet to the NVR without additional off brand licenses.

                        There are so many brands that recommending anything that you don't have experience with is hard. I'm sure that there are many here that would disagree, but poke and hope. There are many good brands and systems out there. I've used Pelco, Axis, HikVision and GeoVision. All are good, some are quite expensive.

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                          justin867
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                          Hikvision NVR has 16 ports at the back. does the camera need to be directly connected to the ports? we have CCTV vlan and some of camera is passing via fiber and multiple switch hops.

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                            justin867
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                            For now i would prefer to use appliance NVR so its easy to dismantle if needed. I have experience here that i need to dismantle my VMs and send to headoffice before Irma hits the property. If that happens again, I do not want to add another sheet of instructions to dismantle and assemble another system.

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                              scotth @justin867
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                              @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                              Hikvision NVR has 16 ports at the back. does the camera need to be directly connected to the ports? we have CCTV vlan and some of camera is passing via fiber and multiple switch hops.

                              I'm not sure where you're confused. BNC (analog over coax) goes to BNC. IP goes over the wire (ethernet). The appliance has an interface to configure your connected devices.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @justin867
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                                @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                For now i would prefer to use appliance NVR so its easy to dismantle if needed. I have experience here that i need to dismantle my VMs and send to headoffice before Irma hits the property. If that happens again, I do not want to add another sheet of instructions to dismantle and assemble another system.

                                It would just be a VM. Shutdown your hypervisor and take it with you.

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                                  justin867 @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by justin867

                                  @DustinB3403 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                  @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                  For now i would prefer to use appliance NVR so its easy to dismantle if needed. I have experience here that i need to dismantle my VMs and send to headoffice before Irma hits the property. If that happens again, I do not want to add another sheet of instructions to dismantle and assemble another system.

                                  It would just be a VM. Shutdown your hypervisor and take it with you.

                                  last time, we left the CCTV up until the power loss to get footages as long as we can.

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                                    justin867 @scotth
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                                    @scotth said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                    @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                    Hikvision NVR has 16 ports at the back. does the camera need to be directly connected to the ports? we have CCTV vlan and some of camera is passing via fiber and multiple switch hops.

                                    I'm not sure where you're confused. BNC (analog over coax) goes to BNC. IP goes over the wire (ethernet). The appliance has an interface to configure your connected devices.

                                    Sorry for noob question. Just want to make sure that the NVR's 16 network ports works as normal switch ports.

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                                      scotth @justin867
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                                      @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                      @scotth said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                      @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                      Hikvision NVR has 16 ports at the back. does the camera need to be directly connected to the ports? we have CCTV vlan and some of camera is passing via fiber and multiple switch hops.

                                      I'm not sure where you're confused. BNC (analog over coax) goes to BNC. IP goes over the wire (ethernet). The appliance has an interface to configure your connected devices.

                                      Sorry for noob question. Just want to make sure that the NVR's 16 network ports works as normal switch ports.

                                      I honestly couldn't tell you as I've never dealt with a device that matches what you're describing.

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                                        JasGot @justin867
                                        last edited by JasGot

                                        Sorry for noob question. Just want to make sure that the NVR's 16 network ports works as normal switch ports.

                                        Yes they do.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @scotth
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                                          @scotth said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                          @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                          @scotth said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                          @justin867 said in CCTV Standalone NVR:

                                          Hikvision NVR has 16 ports at the back. does the camera need to be directly connected to the ports? we have CCTV vlan and some of camera is passing via fiber and multiple switch hops.

                                          I'm not sure where you're confused. BNC (analog over coax) goes to BNC. IP goes over the wire (ethernet). The appliance has an interface to configure your connected devices.

                                          Sorry for noob question. Just want to make sure that the NVR's 16 network ports works as normal switch ports.

                                          I honestly couldn't tell you as I've never dealt with a device that matches what you're describing.

                                          While technically non-Ethernet switches are physically possible, they really don't exist on the market. Only Ethernet switching has ever really been a thing. So you are safe in that all switching is interchangeable.

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