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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @scottalanmiller said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

      So @scottalanmiller you are making assumptions that he requires a lab and not a laptop. I'm making the assumption that he would prefer a laptop to a lab for the reasons or portability.

      Assumptions all around but there is someone who can clarify the need vs want conversation, @WrCombs.

      I want a laptop to act as a Lab but I dont need a Lab

      Does that make sense?

      It's just part of the picture.

      You "need" a laptop, and you "want" a lab. but it doesn't speak to if there is a reason to have the two combined.

      I need a laptop. Correct

      I want a Lab for testing ongoing issues in the field and try different software that we support and install to give me an edge on the people that work here.

      does that help .

      Why do you need an edge over your coworkers for this crappy software?

      because believe it or not, I enjoy what I do for work and want to learn it and be the best at it.

      That is different from what I've asked.

      Why do you need an edge over your coworkers? You and them are on the same team. Things they know, they should help to teach you. Things you know you should teach them.

      I misunderstood the question.
      as we are a team, If I can learn something new then I can teach it to my coworkers. I'm far from lazy and I'm trying to learn it the best I can. most times, i end up doing shit by myself anyway.

      On- call for example. Im the newest guy with 8 months into the company.
      I get screwed every on call when something comes in i've never seen before and never get answers and have to figure it out on the fly.,

      That means your employer needs to train you. That isn't your responsibility to "figure it out" when you have clients that are down and no one to help support or back you up.

      Seriously leave this place if this is the shit they are pulling.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

        @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

        ... I ... want to learn it and be the best at it.

        Change your scope. Do you want to be the best out of a small pool of people at a bad job? Or do you want to be the best at something bigger, like being the best tech in Nebraska.

        The Company of RDS is 30 Offices right now.
        I want to be the best out of all of the offices.
        I want to learn it to be the best Point of Sales Tech In nebraska - Cause why settle for less ?

        That scope changes behaviour. Right now, you are looking at learning non-transferable skills,

        Non transferable skills?
        So troubleshooting Windows is non transferable?
        Setting up Firewalls/sonic-walls ( we already discussed sonic--walls, let it die for now)
        trouble shooting networking issues within a "closed" network is nontransferable?
        Trouble Shooting Domain issues (very small work with this one, usually not on the right domain - )
        i don't understand the logic of the skills I've acquired being nontransferable...

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @scottalanmiller said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

          So @scottalanmiller you are making assumptions that he requires a lab and not a laptop. I'm making the assumption that he would prefer a laptop to a lab for the reasons or portability.

          Assumptions all around but there is someone who can clarify the need vs want conversation, @WrCombs.

          I want a laptop to act as a Lab but I dont need a Lab

          Does that make sense?

          It's just part of the picture.

          You "need" a laptop, and you "want" a lab. but it doesn't speak to if there is a reason to have the two combined.

          I need a laptop. Correct

          I want a Lab for testing ongoing issues in the field and try different software that we support and install to give me an edge on the people that work here.

          does that help .

          Why do you need an edge over your coworkers for this crappy software?

          because believe it or not, I enjoy what I do for work and want to learn it and be the best at it.

          That is different from what I've asked.

          Why do you need an edge over your coworkers? You and them are on the same team. Things they know, they should help to teach you. Things you know you should teach them.

          I misunderstood the question.
          as we are a team, If I can learn something new then I can teach it to my coworkers. I'm far from lazy and I'm trying to learn it the best I can. most times, i end up doing shit by myself anyway.

          On- call for example. Im the newest guy with 8 months into the company.
          I get screwed every on call when something comes in i've never seen before and never get answers and have to figure it out on the fly.,

          That means your employer needs to train you. That isn't your responsibility to "figure it out" when you have clients that are down and no one to help support or back you up.

          Seriously leave this place if this is the shit they are pulling.

          Well, When i have sites down, and no one is available to help - figuring it out is all i really have, cant tell the customer " Welp, I dont know what im doing so i need to wait for someone."
          Start at the basics - just like any troubleshooting - and move forward until you figure it out or someone reaches out to help.
          It's shitty, I know, But I seem to be the only one who needs help; part of the reason for wanting to do this is to get to where I don't have to ask for help as often.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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            @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

            That scope changes behaviour. Right now, you are looking at learning non-transferable skills,

            Non transferable skills?
            So troubleshooting Windows is non transferable?
            Setting up Firewalls/sonic-walls ( we already discussed sonic--walls, let it die for now)
            trouble shooting networking issues within a "closed" network is nontransferable?
            Trouble Shooting Domain issues (very small work with this one, usually not on the right domain - )
            i don't understand the logic of the skills I've acquired being nontransferable...

            Because the kinds of tasks you are doing (or talk about at least) are mostly unique to one bad company screwing things up, not general skills. General troubleshooting is good to learn, but not as good as troubleshooting with real world issues. You are burning a lot of time and effort on a tiny subset of the field, and most of what you see is correcting errors by idiots. The general skill there would be to have competent people with competent management, even if that just means good processes rather than good people.

            I know it feels like general, transferable, stuff. But I think that you will find that when you get to another job, it won't be.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller I'm trademarking that.

              Errors by idiots®

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                My new password for everything(without quotes): "!d10+5"

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Including ML, go on, test it.

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

                    My new password for everything(without quotes): "!d10+5"

                    Why?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
                      last edited by

                      @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

                      My new password for everything(without quotes): "!d10+5"

                      Why?

                      Why not, it's simple to remember IMO and no one would ever guess it.

                      🙂

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        Are we actually having an ID10T error here @WrCombs ?

                        Of course my password isn't "!d10+5"

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                        • WrCombsW
                          WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

                          @WrCombs said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Buy Process Failures and Where things went wrong:

                          My new password for everything(without quotes): "!d10+5"

                          Why?

                          Why not, it's simple to remember IMO and no one would ever guess it.

                          🙂

                          LOL

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                            @WrCombs
                            https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_strength.png

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                            • WrCombsW
                              WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 Aint that the truth .
                              LOL I dig it

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