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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in file sharing in the 21st century:

      In file sharing, latency typically trumps bandwidth for normal files.

      Making users wait, is never going to go over well.

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      • DonahueD
        Donahue
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        I think I realized that recently. It makes @JaredBusch's comments about why I needed a 1Gb WAN make more sense. I probably needed improved latency at least as much as more bandwidth. I think I had a lot of extra backend issues that were causing more latency than just network latency too. Resolving those may have been enough, but at this point we have what we have.

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        • DonahueD
          Donahue
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          Back on this topic. With NC, If I want to make this open to the web, what do I need to do? Is it just a matter of registering a domain somewhere, get external DNS to point to it, and then port forward from my router to the NC server?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Donahue
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            @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

            Back on this topic. With NC, If I want to make this open to the web, what do I need to do? Is it just a matter of registering a domain somewhere, get external DNS to point to it, and then port forward from my router to the NC server?

            Pretty much. You will need to update the config.php with the domain name, but yeah, that is it.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Donahue
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              @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

              Back on this topic. With NC, If I want to make this open to the web, what do I need to do? Is it just a matter of registering a domain somewhere, get external DNS to point to it, and then port forward from my router to the NC server?

              If you don't care about the domain, you can even just use an IP address. Silly, but not technically needed.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                Back on this topic. With NC, If I want to make this open to the web, what do I need to do? Is it just a matter of registering a domain somewhere, get external DNS to point to it, and then port forward from my router to the NC server?

                If you don't care about the domain, you can even just use an IP address. Silly, but not technically needed.

                Not to mention that I cannot imagine his company does not own some kind of domain already. So all he has to do is setup DNS.

                I mean we know they are messed up, but I hope not enough that they use gmail or something.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                  @scottalanmiller said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                  @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                  Back on this topic. With NC, If I want to make this open to the web, what do I need to do? Is it just a matter of registering a domain somewhere, get external DNS to point to it, and then port forward from my router to the NC server?

                  If you don't care about the domain, you can even just use an IP address. Silly, but not technically needed.

                  Not to mention that I cannot imagine his company does not own some kind of domain already. So all he has to do is setup DNS.

                  I mean we know they are messed up, but I hope not enough that they use gmail or something.

                  OH, it's amazing how many are....

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                  • DonahueD
                    Donahue
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                    We own gemequipment.com, but I have not been part of that whole deal so I dont know where we stand on that. If you look at our website, it's atrocious. I have no idea where it is hosted or anything. If I setup a domain for NC, I would likely pick something else so as to not mix the two.

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                    • DonahueD
                      Donahue @Donahue
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                      @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                      We own gemequipment.com, but I have not been part of that whole deal so I dont know where we stand on that. If you look at our website, it's atrocious. I have no idea where it is hosted or anything. If I setup a domain for NC, I would likely pick something else so as to not mix the two.

                      they must have updated the site recently, it's not quite as bad as it was. Still, not my department as of now.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Donahue
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                        @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                        We own gemequipment.com, but I have not been part of that whole deal so I dont know where we stand on that. If you look at our website, it's atrocious. I have no idea where it is hosted or anything. If I setup a domain for NC, I would likely pick something else so as to not mix the two.

                        One has nothing to do with the other though. Assuming your company's name has something to do with gem equipment, why get a whole new domain just for NC?

                        You can find out who's hosting your public DNS and ask them to add a record for NC pointing to the IP of your firewall that you're forwarding into your NC box.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                          @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                          We own gemequipment.com, but I have not been part of that whole deal so I dont know where we stand on that. If you look at our website, it's atrocious. I have no idea where it is hosted or anything. If I setup a domain for NC, I would likely pick something else so as to not mix the two.

                          One has nothing to do with the other though. Assuming your company's name has something to do with gem equipment, why get a whole new domain just for NC?

                          You can find out who's hosting your public DNS and ask them to add a record for NC pointing to the IP of your firewall that you're forwarding into your NC box.

                          nc.domain.com will hit half my Nextcloud instances. The other half are oc.domain.com because they have been around that long and I don't care to update everything.

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                          • DonahueD
                            Donahue
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                            I want to start with a big thanks to @JaredBusch for his guides on NC and Nginx. Now that the basic NC instance is setup, I want to see what I can do with it to improve its functionality or make it's integration with our workflows a more seamless one. Hopefully you guys have some experience with some of these tweaks, or have questions yourself about going beyond the base install.

                            The first question I have is about authentication. I think I want to setup LDAP authentication to talk with my AD, but I would also like to setup 2fa, at least for web access. I am really worried that my users have terribly insecure passwords in AD and I don't want to put my files at risk because of this. This is our first "cloud accessible" service if you discount email, and I want to start out on the right foot. Does this plan sound like a good idea, or what would any of you change? Who is using 2fa now with NC, and what do you use for it?

                            The second questions is about automating folder creation with NC. I would like to be able to have NC automatically create certain folders for projects, based on sql triggers coming from a external sql database. Is this possible?

                            The third question is similar to the second. I would like NC to create a consistent folder structure when a new user is created or when some similar event is triggered. I plan on seeing if I can treat NC like a folder redirection of sorts.

                            I am going to take my time and plan out how we would utilize NC, because there is a lot of opportunity to improve things for us.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                              @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                              The third question is similar to the second. I would like NC to create a consistent folder structure when a new user is created or when some similar event is triggered. I plan on seeing if I can treat NC like a folder redirection of sorts.

                              This is interesting. Why do you want this, what's the use case? Since this would be purely for the user's personal files, not shared ones, what's the end goal?

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                              • DonahueD
                                Donahue @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                                @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                                The third question is similar to the second. I would like NC to create a consistent folder structure when a new user is created or when some similar event is triggered. I plan on seeing if I can treat NC like a folder redirection of sorts.

                                This is interesting. Why do you want this, what's the use case? Since this would be purely for the user's personal files, not shared ones, what's the end goal?

                                I want to sync the desktop and documents folders with NC, and I want to have a place to store personal scans that come off our network scanners. This would save me the hassle of manually creating all these. My goal is to get everything worth keeping onto a central place so it can be backed up at the VM level, and I dont ever have to worry about end points. Right now we tell employees to never keep anything valuable on their own hard drives, but they still do, and I refuse to backup endpoints.

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                                • DonahueD
                                  Donahue
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                                  Also, what are people's must have NC apps?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                                    @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                                    Also, what are people's must have NC apps?

                                    I use Notes and Talk constantly.

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                                    • DonahueD
                                      Donahue
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                                      Is there a way to point devices on the LAN to the LAN address instead of the external address?

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                                      • notverypunnyN
                                        notverypunny @Donahue
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                                        @Donahue Internal DNS records are your friend

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                                          @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                                          Is there a way to point devices on the LAN to the LAN address instead of the external address?

                                          That's where overloading DNS comes in, or configuring the router to hairpin.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Donahue
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                                            @Donahue said in file sharing in the 21st century:

                                            Is there a way to point devices on the LAN to the LAN address instead of the external address?

                                            FFS, we just had this conversation in your other thread.

                                            You use an internal based DNS name. for clients that are only ever in the office.

                                            This prevernt you from having to add your public domain to your internal DNS.

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