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    Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD

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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

      @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

      @Donahue said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

      are you sure there is no local account that can be used to login?

      The local administrative account is automatically disabled on DC's. Has been this way since before I can remember.

      Someone could have added it back later, in theory.

      On a DC you don't have local accounts period, like literally.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato
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        If the server is boot into DSRM, it is the safe mode option and it has a GUI as well, so from there check any setting that is causing the issue.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @dbeato
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          @dbeato said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

          @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

          @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

          @Donahue said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

          are you sure there is no local account that can be used to login?

          The local administrative account is automatically disabled on DC's. Has been this way since before I can remember.

          Someone could have added it back later, in theory.

          On a DC you don't have local accounts period, like literally.

          I've said this several times regarding the account and yet, still it seems like I'm being ignored.

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          • dbeatoD
            dbeato @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

            @dbeato said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

            @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

            @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

            @Donahue said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

            are you sure there is no local account that can be used to login?

            The local administrative account is automatically disabled on DC's. Has been this way since before I can remember.

            Someone could have added it back later, in theory.

            On a DC you don't have local accounts period, like literally.

            I've said this several times regarding the account and yet, still it seems like I'm being ignored.

            I agree with you, should have I said, @DustinB3403 already mentioned this 😛

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @dbeato
              last edited by

              @dbeato no no, not saying that at all.

              Just I'm boggled by how this is still a talking point.

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                manxam
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                If you have CLI access (not sure where you're getting a shell if you can't login though), can you not just do a

                net user /add [AccountName] [Password]
                net localgroup administrators [AccountName] /add
                

                and add a local administrator account?
                Log into the GUI using this new account and then diagnose from there now that you'll have access to the GUI, event viewer, etc.
                You could have the user run an SC agent so you can inspect remotely (assuming the router has been fixed).

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @manxam
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                  @manxam said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                  If you have CLI access (not sure where you're getting a shell if you can't login though), can you not just do a

                  net user /add [AccountName] [Password]
                  net localgroup administrators [AccountName] /add
                  

                  and add a local administrator account?
                  Log into the GUI using this new account and then diagnose from there now that you'll have access to the GUI, event viewer, etc.
                  You could have the user run an SC agent so you can inspect remotely (assuming the router has been fixed).

                  ffs


                  Please understand that when a Windows server is promoted to a domain controller, the server no longer uses the local account (Security Accounts Manager [SAM]) database during normal operations to store users and groups. When the promotion is complete, the new domain controller has a copy of the Active Directory database in which it stores users, groups, and computer accounts. The SAM database is present, but it is inaccessible when the server is running in Normal mode. The only time that the local SAM database is used is when you boot into Directory Services Restore mode or the Recovery Console.

                  If this new domain controller is the first domain controller in a new domain, the local SAM database that the new domain controller contained as a stand-alone server is migrated to the Active Directory database that is created during the promotion. All of the local user accounts that the local SAM database contained when it had been a stand-alone server are migrated from the local SAM database to the Active Directory database. In addition, any permissions that had been assigned to the local users, such as, NTFS permissions, are retained when the users are migrated to the Active Directory database.

                  As a result, you cannot create any local user account on a domain controller.

                  https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/sharepoint/en-US/2f120e62-52a9-4001-b8e0-15a897f28b7e/is-there-any-possible-to-create-a-local-account-on-domain-controller-not-domain-account?forum=winserverDS

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    wooo - had no idea that previously created users would be migrated into AD like that. weird.

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                      dea that previously created users would be migrated into AD like that. weird.

                      Yep

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
                        last edited by

                        What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                          What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                          I would hope they wouldn't restore back to bare metal (if they have backups) and instead restore to a VM.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                            What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                            Two day download of their backup!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                              @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                              What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                              I would hope they wouldn't restore back to bare metal (if they have backups) and instead restore to a VM.

                              They have no hardware for doing a VM.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                                Two day download of their backup!

                                Are they using Amazon Glacier?!

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                  @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                  What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                                  I would hope they wouldn't restore back to bare metal (if they have backups) and instead restore to a VM.

                                  They have no hardware for doing a VM.

                                  Not even a desktop to setup as a hypervisor?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                    @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                    What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                                    Two day download of their backup!

                                    Are they using Amazon Glacier?!

                                    The issue is their network connection.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                      @dafyre said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                      What's the latest @scottalanmiller ? Did you guys have to restore from backup and hope for the best?

                                      I would hope they wouldn't restore back to bare metal (if they have backups) and instead restore to a VM.

                                      They have no hardware for doing a VM.

                                      Not even a desktop to setup as a hypervisor?

                                      Nope. Everything is in use for the clinic.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        That's rough.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Windows Server 2012 Essentials Cannot Find Login Server for AD:

                                          That's rough.

                                          Very

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