Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens
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Maybe teach them how to setup a server and access it via SSH (with putty/powershell/linux terminal).
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@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Have them make a website to advertise the family dinner schedule!
now that's a great idea, Except does that fall into the category of IT?
I thought that was more web design?Installing the OS, installing the web server, installing the app, getting the app to work, accessing it... all IT.
They don't need to "design" anything, just throw quick info up on an existing template.
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@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Have them make a website to advertise the family dinner schedule!
now that's a great idea, Except does that fall into the category of IT?
I thought that was more web design?I think the server setup would be IT, but the website design would likely be a flat html file.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Have them make a website to advertise the family dinner schedule!
now that's a great idea, Except does that fall into the category of IT?
I thought that was more web design?I think the server setup would be IT, but the website design would likely be a flat html file.
Maybe the first one. But have them install WordPress.
That's way more to experience. They need to add modules, configure the Apache system, set up a database, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Have them make a website to advertise the family dinner schedule!
now that's a great idea, Except does that fall into the category of IT?
I thought that was more web design?Installing the OS, installing the web server, installing the app, getting the app to work, accessing it... all IT.
They don't need to "design" anything, just throw quick info up on an existing template.
Ah okay, See when I read that I thought back to Web design, Now I see that you mean - Build the Website and use existing Templates.
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OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
I would say extremely useful. You learn how the parts work, and why they exist.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
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@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
That was basically what my college lab work consisted of. Was kinda silly as I had already done and seen that. Back in the days that motherboards had SIMM slots and jumpers to set clock speed. Overclocking consisted of tweezers and patience.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
I would say extremely useful. You learn how the parts work, and why they exist.
Useful to the house (me)
not useful as in a means of learning -
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
I would say extremely useful. You learn how the parts work, and why they exist.
Useful to the house (me)
not useful as in a means of learning FFS, how would setting it up not be useful to learning how it works?
Is that not the point of setting it up.
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@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
That is specifically not IT in any way.
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@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
I would say extremely useful. You learn how the parts work, and why they exist.
Useful to the house (me)
not useful as in a means of learning FFS, how would setting it up not be useful to learning how it works?
Is that not the point of setting it up.
I see your sourbread panties are pointed in my direction now.
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@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
That is specifically not IT in any way.
How is that not?
Is Desktop support Not part of entry Level IT?
Do you know how to fix everything on a computer being an IT Pro?
How would that not be helpful in the idea of- Troubleshooting
- Basic\Potential issue they May run into on the job
- Gain Confidence as teenagers in the IT field learning on the job as they go
you're telling me its not specific to IT, But would it not hold value to them?
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@WrCombs Well this is break/fix tech. So I kind of agree with @JaredBusch here.
It's extremely low skill level required in that "remove this and put this in place of it".
There would be no diagnostics in that case, and I'm not really wanting to get into a "break/fix" scenario with em.
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I would think of lab things you don't have the time for and have the teens do it. For example I dont have time to set up Plex, but good project for a lab? Probably
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs Well this is break/fix tech. So I kind of agree with @JaredBusch here.
It's extremely low skill level required in that "remove this and put this in place of it".
There would be no diagnostics in that case, and I'm not really wanting to get into a "break/fix" scenario with em.
Fair enough
IMO i think it has some benefit, but I get what you guys are saying. -
PacketTracer is a nice simulator tool to learn setting up a network.
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@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
That is specifically not IT in any way.
How is that not?
Is Desktop support Not part of entry Level IT?
Do you know how to fix everything on a computer being an IT Pro?
How would that not be helpful in the idea of- Troubleshooting
- Basic\Potential issue they May run into on the job
- Gain Confidence as teenagers in the IT field learning on the job as they go
you're telling me its not specific to IT, But would it not hold value to them?
It's definitely not IT, it is bench (think GeekSquad.) Is knowing some bench useful to some IT people? Sure. But it also can be confusing, misleading, a waste of time, or discouraging. So you have to be careful.
Working on assembling hardware is not desktop support. Desktop support is IT, but doesn't do this stuff. GeekSquad doesn't do desktop support. They sell desktops, they sell desktop parts, but they don't do the IT field of desktop support.
You don't really troubleshoot in a bench mode. You replace. You tend to get some of your worst habits here from IT people who started in bench and didn't learn how to see it as different.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs Well this is break/fix tech. So I kind of agree with @JaredBusch here.
It's extremely low skill level required in that "remove this and put this in place of it".
There would be no diagnostics in that case, and I'm not really wanting to get into a "break/fix" scenario with em.
And in the real world, you generally don't have this at all. You call your vendor and they just replace the whole thing. It's not worth it for them, even with all of their parts and testing potential, to do that in the field.
