Live Streaming Church Services
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For the sound, you would simply have an extra mic on the podium where the person is presenting from. That would feed directly into OBS. And would be your MIC-in.
Sound out isn't going to matter, its not like you're streaming a football game.
The overlay (different scenes) can all be configured to occur on an event (usually key-combo) but I recall there was a timing functionality as well. We stuck with the key-combo's.
But any scene is made from any number of sources, cameras or whatever you have, numerous mics if you needed them (might be annoying) maybe a banner ad goes across the bottom. And each scene will have a custom set of visible sources, or muted and unmuted sources.
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@DustinB3403 Unless you put a lapel mic on the subject, its not that easy. Some subjects like to move around the stage.
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@NerdyDad said in Live Streaming Church Services:
@DustinB3403 Unless you put a lapel mic on the subject, its not that easy. Some subjects like to move around the stage.
I never said what type of mic, I just specified a mic. It could be at a podium or a lapel. So long as you can feed it into OBS you'd be able to capture that sound and use it as an input for the broadcast.
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The biggest issue that is going to occur is your upload at the church likely sucks. My guess would be you have WiFi on premise, that everyone and their cousin connects too when they arrive for service.
This is going to cripple the stream.
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@Pete-S said in Live Streaming Church Services:
Streaming is the easy part relatively speaking.
You need to pick up audio either from microphones or from the sound system. You want to mix in the audio that's applicable to the video feed you are seeing. Microphones need micro preamps to get to line level or a mixerboard with outputs. If there is a proper sound system in place you need to hook up to that.
And you need camera feeds as well. You can't just do a wide angle shot of everything.
These are the things that make streaming a church service more complicated than streaming a video game.
And that is the order in which to approach this. First what do you have today hardware wise, what do you want in audio and video, who will manage it and control it during service and finally how can we bring it together and stream it. It's a pro audio / video problem much more than an IT problem.
^^^ This. You're trying to use IT to solve an AV problem. If it's a church of any size, there should already be plentiful AV equipment to tap into. You should be able to get a mixdown of the audio, plus be able to do video switching. The streaming part is trivial compared to the AV production side, which should already have its own infrastructure.
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So while you can work around the adding sources to the stream situation, the biggest issue (especially for this) is the bandwidth available on premise.
I've had people ask me how to do this same sort of thing for family sporting events etc, and it's always a damn bandwidth issue. Especially when you have 100+ extra devices all connected using that DSL for $19.99/month. . .
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@DustinB3403 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
So while you can work around the adding sources to the stream situation, the biggest issue (especially for this) is the bandwidth available on premise.
I've had people ask me how to do this same sort of thing for family sporting events etc, and it's always a damn bandwidth issue. Especially when you have 100+ extra devices all connected using that DSL for $19.99/month. . .
Just like you would do with any other organization. You VLAN off the guest wifi to just the Internet and throttle it down to just barely speeds.
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@DustinB3403 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
So while you can work around the adding sources to the stream situation, the biggest issue (especially for this) is the bandwidth available on premise.
I've had people ask me how to do this same sort of thing for family sporting events etc, and it's always a damn bandwidth issue. Especially when you have 100+ extra devices all connected using that DSL for $19.99/month. . .
True. It does seem plausible... nay, likely... that a church would "hire" someone to do this and expect them to bring the required bandwidth with them, at no additional cost of course.
"But we have a 25/5 cable connection! Why can't you make it stream full HD and 4k/HDR??? Our cameras are HD!!! Make it work already!!!!"
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@RojoLoco said in Live Streaming Church Services:
True. It does seem plausible... nay, likely... that a church would "hire" someone to do this and expect them to bring the required bandwidth with them, at no additional cost of course.
Haha a Church hire someone. Man you're funny.
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@coliver I was trying to be nice and not go off on that rant...
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@NerdyDad said in Live Streaming Church Services:
@DustinB3403 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
So while you can work around the adding sources to the stream situation, the biggest issue (especially for this) is the bandwidth available on premise.
I've had people ask me how to do this same sort of thing for family sporting events etc, and it's always a damn bandwidth issue. Especially when you have 100+ extra devices all connected using that DSL for $19.99/month. . .
Just like you would do with any other organization. You VLAN off the guest wifi to just the Internet and throttle it down to just barely speeds.
That limiting is generally limiting per user. Not limited for the entire vLAN and while it might be funny to essentially turn of the Guest-WiFi with such horrible speeds the reality is no one would actually do this.
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@RojoLoco said in Live Streaming Church Services:
@DustinB3403 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
So while you can work around the adding sources to the stream situation, the biggest issue (especially for this) is the bandwidth available on premise.
I've had people ask me how to do this same sort of thing for family sporting events etc, and it's always a damn bandwidth issue. Especially when you have 100+ extra devices all connected using that DSL for $19.99/month. . .
True. It does seem plausible... nay, likely... that a church would "hire" someone to do this and expect them to bring the required bandwidth with them, at no additional cost of course.
"But we have a 25/5 cable connection! Why can't you make it stream full HD and 4k/HDR??? Our cameras are HD!!! Make it work already!!!!"
This is exactly what I heard every time. Every damn time. Or the better one "How come it seems frozen?! We're missing all of the action".
Eh. . . because you're giving this device less internet performance than 56k dialup when the network is this inundated with "users".
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Our church went with the most affordable solution the pastor could find: his old iPhone and Facebook live. Hey, it works and fits into the church's technology budget ( that would be $0 for anyone keeping track)
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@jt1001001 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
Our church went with the most affordable solution the pastor could find: his old iPhone and Facebook live. Hey, it works and fits into the church's technology budget ( that would be $0 for anyone keeping track)
That's the right approach. Consumers in this case aren't necessarily looking for 4k and perfect audio. As long as the speaker is understood and you can stream in 720 that's sufficient.
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@IRJ said in Live Streaming Church Services:
@jt1001001 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
Our church went with the most affordable solution the pastor could find: his old iPhone and Facebook live. Hey, it works and fits into the church's technology budget ( that would be $0 for anyone keeping track)
That's the right approach. Consumers in this case aren't necessarily looking for 4k and perfect audio. As long as the speaker is understood and you can stream in 720 that's sufficient.
Haven't dealt with churches much?
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The size of the church and the target demographic have a lot to do with it. Also, the age or youthfulness of the staff. My pastor is my age, early 30's, and anything like this at our church would likely be targeted at that same age.
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@JaredBusch said in Live Streaming Church Services:
@IRJ said in Live Streaming Church Services:
@jt1001001 said in Live Streaming Church Services:
Our church went with the most affordable solution the pastor could find: his old iPhone and Facebook live. Hey, it works and fits into the church's technology budget ( that would be $0 for anyone keeping track)
That's the right approach. Consumers in this case aren't necessarily looking for 4k and perfect audio. As long as the speaker is understood and you can stream in 720 that's sufficient.
Haven't dealt with churches much?
Nope. I just figured people would be fine if they could just hear and see the speaker...after all they are watching for religious reasons.
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Also, the difference in requirements between streaming external vs internal might be wildly different
