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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

Kelly

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

JaredBusch

@kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

While true, it is not the headline. It is his reinterpretation of it.

That is always what I have issue with.

Post without putting your spin on the item .. You spin can be in follow up text all you want.

scottalanmiller

@kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

Right, I didn't mention it was specifically parents, didn't seem necessary, and added that it was CNN's opinion, which theirs didn't have. Mine was LESS click bait that the original.

scottalanmiller

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

@kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

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@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

While true, it is not the headline. It is his reinterpretation of it.

That is always what I have issue with.

Post without putting your spin on the item .. You spin can be in follow up text all you want.

But why is it okay to spin later, but not at the time? That doesn't make logical sense. First, I didn't spin it at all, it was simply stating the facts... that CNN was saying this thing. Second, it's conceptually mistaken. There is no logical reason why the only thing any link can be is the title of the article to which it links. No one does that, that's not how the web or links work.

If we were to do that, why have hyperlinking as we do at all, rather than linking our own text to other things? You are missing how the web is designed to be used.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

Right, I didn't mention it was specifically parents, didn't seem necessary, and added that it was CNN's opinion, which theirs didn't have. Mine was LESS click bait that the original.

It is still your interpretation, and not they literal thing being posted to. that is no better than burying shit in a URL shortener in my opinion.

You are the one who always demands such literal interpretations of things. So stop pushing your agenda with simple news article links. Let us determine that.

Acceptable options instead of the shit you posted:

The @scottalanmiller opinion

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

or actual article title.

Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time

JaredBusch

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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

While true, it is not the headline. It is his reinterpretation of it.

That is always what I have issue with.

Post without putting your spin on the item .. You spin can be in follow up text all you want.

But why is it okay to spin later, but not at the time? That doesn't make logical sense. First, I didn't spin it at all, it was simply stating the facts... that CNN was saying this thing. Second, it's conceptually mistaken. There is no logical reason why the only thing any link can be is the title of the article to which it links. No one does that, that's not how the web or links work.

If we were to do that, why have hyperlinking as we do at all, rather than linking our own text to other things? You are missing how the web is designed to be used.

No, I am not. By altering the original title you are creating a bias by default towards you own opinion.

This one was actually tame compared to some that you have done. So yes, it was barely different.

bnrstnr

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

If we were to do that, why have hyperlinking as we do at all, rather than linking our own text to other things? You are missing how the web is designed to be used.

More apps are generating a preview based on the content of the site using only the URL. It's becoming more and more normal to not hyperlink the way we have done traditionally.

Obsolesce

scottalanmiller

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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

CNN says Stop Feeling Guilty About Kids Watching Television

Just reading the headline makes me think "Duh, what else would CNN tell you"

Except, that is Scott's made up headline to get you to click it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/health/screentime-guilt-parenting-strauss/index.html

His headline isn't too far off of the original CNN one: "Parents, stop feeling so guilty about TV time".

While true, it is not the headline. It is his reinterpretation of it.

That is always what I have issue with.

Post without putting your spin on the item .. You spin can be in follow up text all you want.

But why is it okay to spin later, but not at the time? That doesn't make logical sense. First, I didn't spin it at all, it was simply stating the facts... that CNN was saying this thing. Second, it's conceptually mistaken. There is no logical reason why the only thing any link can be is the title of the article to which it links. No one does that, that's not how the web or links work.

If we were to do that, why have hyperlinking as we do at all, rather than linking our own text to other things? You are missing how the web is designed to be used.

No, I am not. By altering the original title you are creating a bias by default towards you own opinion.

This one was actually tame compared to some that you have done. So yes, it was barely different.

I didn't alter the title. That's not what a link is. Your foundation for the complaint is incorrect. And actually if there is any bias, it's away from my opinion since I softened a message that I felt that they overstated.

You often assume a bias that isn't there or is backwards, then believe I've added that bias. You are already biased believing I do this, and see a bias that isn't there because of it. And you see it in a place where it's not sensible to look for it, because I didn't provide a title, I mentioned a topic that was as clear as could be, not a title. I said what CNN had said, that's journalism. Don't expect any link to be a title, a link implies that in no way.

scottalanmiller

@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

If we were to do that, why have hyperlinking as we do at all, rather than linking our own text to other things? You are missing how the web is designed to be used.

More apps are generating a preview based on the content of the site using only the URL. It's becoming more and more normal to not hyperlink the way we have done traditionally.

But we cannot use "some places have spam" to say "humans can no longer use the web." He knows its not a title, a spam bot, or a pure repetition to promote the original site, but mentioning a topic like the web was designed for.

Agreed, spam has started using titles in some cases with links, but it's a coincidence that they coincide, and not a requirement that it be identical and we should expect that more intelligent bots will reverse this to act like humans in the very near future to combat SEO filtering.