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      1337
      last edited by 1337

      I had a look at SANS SEC401: Security Essentials and it looks interesting and it is something I need but the class is outside my budget at $6K.

      This is the curriculum:

      • 1 Network Security Essentials
      • 2 Defense-In-Depth and Attacks
      • 3 Threat Management
      • 4 Cryptography, Risk Management and Response
      • 5 Windows Security
      • 6 Linux Security

      I don't need the certification (GSEC) but I'd like to learn the same thing.

      Can I learn this on my own using books, videos, websites etc or is a classroom (virtual or actual) a must? Are there any other companies that would offer similar training to SANS SEC401 but for a more reasonable price? Any other options I haven't considered?

      PS. Maybe I should have posted this in the "IT career" subforum. It's not a career based question though, just knowledge based.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @1337
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        @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

        Can I learn this on my own using books, videos, websites etc or is a classroom (virtual or actual) a must?

        If you dont' need the cert, you can likely learn it far better on your own. Classrooms aren't conducive to learning, typically. The entire concept of classroom learning is focused on testing, rather than learning. Exceptions, of course, but as a general approach.

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          1337 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by 1337

          @scottalanmiller said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

          @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

          Can I learn this on my own using books, videos, websites etc or is a classroom (virtual or actual) a must?

          If you dont' need the cert, you can likely learn it far better on your own. Classrooms aren't conducive to learning, typically. The entire concept of classroom learning is focused on testing, rather than learning. Exceptions, of course, but as a general approach.

          The part of self study that can be tricky to replicate is hands-on training where you get feedback from the teacher. And also that you can learn from others working together on the same task or problem. But I'm not sure how big that part of the training is.

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            scottalanmiller @1337
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            @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

            @scottalanmiller said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

            @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

            Can I learn this on my own using books, videos, websites etc or is a classroom (virtual or actual) a must?

            If you dont' need the cert, you can likely learn it far better on your own. Classrooms aren't conducive to learning, typically. The entire concept of classroom learning is focused on testing, rather than learning. Exceptions, of course, but as a general approach.

            The part of self study that can be tricky to replicate is hands-on training where you get feedback from the teacher. And also that you can learn from others working together on the same task or problem. But I'm not sure how big that part of the training is.

            Those parts can be nice, but on the other side, that method struggles to duplicate the value of self discovery and working through problems.

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              IRJ
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              You wont really find anything that will compare to SANS. CISSP offers a similar course, but it is not hands on like that. Also CISSP does not touch on Windows or Linux specifically like this course does. As highly as CISSP is regarded, SANS certs are held even higher.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
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                These topics are all covered in CISSP

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ
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                  I am curious to what SANS training costs?

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                    1337 @IRJ
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                    @irj said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                    I am curious to what SANS training costs?

                    Around $6000 for the training.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @1337
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                      @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                      @irj said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                      I am curious to what SANS training costs?

                      Around $6000 for the training.

                      So after travel, etc, it is over budget?

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                        1337 @IRJ
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                        @irj said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                        @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                        @irj said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                        I am curious to what SANS training costs?

                        Around $6000 for the training.

                        So after travel, etc, it is over budget?

                        Well, since I'm in Europe it's makes sense to take the training here. With flights, travel costs, hotel, etc the total will be about 8250 EUR, which is $9650. Add to that the loss of billable hours and it adds up.

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                          IRJ @1337
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                          @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                          @irj said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                          @pete-s said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                          @irj said in SANS SEC401: Security Essentials - alternatives?:

                          I am curious to what SANS training costs?

                          Around $6000 for the training.

                          So after travel, etc, it is over budget?

                          Well, since I'm in Europe it's makes sense to take the training here. With flights, travel costs, hotel, etc the total will be about 8250 EUR, which is $9650. Add to that the loss of billable hours and it adds up.

                          Most of your standard cert training is like $3000 ,but most of the time it is just a bootcamp which really isnt what you want. I think you are going to be at that $5-6k range for the type of training you are looking at.

                          I recently attended an O365 workshop that was $4k for 3 days and it was an absolute joke. Alot of time your training, is only as good as your instructor.

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