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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      I'm not familiar with Mondo Archive. Is that some backup software?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

        Veeam Agent for Linux is free and would be an option here. But no matter what, get this virtualized. I like agent based backups more than most, but they can't be used as an excuse to do a physical install.

        He could also go open source and use UrBackup or depending on what Hypervisor he has use some option there.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

          I'm not familiar with Mondo Archive. Is that some backup software?

          I believe he's asking what is the best way to archive a mongodb database.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Also, FreePBX has built in backup utility for the application. There is no need to back up the Linux OS. You can, but it's not necessary or particularly useful. Just restore the OS, and restore the settings.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @dustinb3403 said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

              @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

              I'm not familiar with Mondo Archive. Is that some backup software?

              I believe he's asking what is the best way to archive a mongodb database.

              mongodump

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                Also, FreePBX has built in backup utility for the application. There is no need to back up the Linux OS. You can, but it's not necessary or particularly useful. Just restore the OS, and restore the settings.

                It sucks though. Had tons of issues with it over the years.

                That is actually the big feature of FreePBX 15 (just now in Alpha testing).

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @jaredbusch said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                  Also, FreePBX has built in backup utility for the application. There is no need to back up the Linux OS. You can, but it's not necessary or particularly useful. Just restore the OS, and restore the settings.

                  It sucks though. Had tons of issues with it over the years.

                  That is actually the big feature of FreePBX 15 (just now in Alpha testing).

                  I know, I'm looking forward to FreePBX 15 a lot.

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                  • NashBrydgesN
                    NashBrydges @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                    Also, FreePBX has built in backup utility for the application. There is no need to back up the Linux OS. You can, but it's not necessary or particularly useful. Just restore the OS, and restore the settings.

                    It sucks though. Had tons of issues with it over the years.

                    That is actually the big feature of FreePBX 15 (just now in Alpha testing).

                    What's your preferred choice for FreePBX backups? If you're running on Vultr or other VPS I assume you're using their backup options but for anyone running an on-premises physical box, what's your recommendation? Has anyone ever used something like Veeam Agent for Linux? Is that even a viable option?

                    I've not had to recover a FreePBX setup from backup so learning that it sucks means I should probably look at other options for clients.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @NashBrydges
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                      @nashbrydges use any solution that works for your provider or hypervisor.

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                      • NashBrydgesN
                        NashBrydges @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                        @nashbrydges use any solution that works for your provider or hypervisor.

                        Thanks, yeah that makes obvious sense, but the question is related to on-premises physical box FreePBX installs. I have a couple clients with Sangoma FreePBX appliances (no HA) so it's for these specific use-cases that I was asking about.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @NashBrydges
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                          @nashbrydges said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                          @nashbrydges use any solution that works for your provider or hypervisor.

                          Thanks, yeah that makes obvious sense, but the question is related to on-premises physical box FreePBX installs. I have a couple clients with Sangoma FreePBX appliances (no HA) so it's for these specific use-cases that I was asking about.

                          I do not have any physical systems

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @NashBrydges
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                            @nashbrydges said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                            @nashbrydges use any solution that works for your provider or hypervisor.

                            Thanks, yeah that makes obvious sense, but the question is related to on-premises physical box FreePBX installs. I have a couple clients with Sangoma FreePBX appliances (no HA) so it's for these specific use-cases that I was asking about.

                            As previously discussed, your phone system shouldn't be physically installed... As it's usually critically important.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @NashBrydges
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                              @nashbrydges said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                              @nashbrydges use any solution that works for your provider or hypervisor.

                              Thanks, yeah that makes obvious sense, but the question is related to on-premises physical box FreePBX installs. I have a couple clients with Sangoma FreePBX appliances (no HA) so it's for these specific use-cases that I was asking about.

                              So they opted to purchase an appliance from Sangoma like the ones here

                              In a case like that I would ask Sangoma what they would recommend. . .

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                              • JaredBuschJ
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                                The native back up solution does work but takes more than just click click click to set up.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  It’s also a bunch of individual pieces and some things have to be added manually but once finally all set up it can give you a valid back up

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    @JaredBusch do you know if the Sangoma backup utilities allow the system to get restore to anything, anywhere. Or do they require a working appliance to restore too?

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      I’ve specifically never seen the appliance back up I assume it is actually a little bit better or something. I was strictly referencing the free PBX back up Monterey which is all that the Sangoma system is

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch Ah. Well thanks for being honest.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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                                          @nashbrydges said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                                          If you're running on Vultr or other VPS I assume you're using their backup options but for anyone running an on-premises physical box, what's your recommendation? Has anyone ever used something like Veeam Agent for Linux? Is that even a viable option?

                                          I use Vultr and Vultr's snaps, yes.

                                          Yes, Veeam Agent for Linux is absolutely a viable option.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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                                            @nashbrydges said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Sangoma Linux and mondo archive:

                                            @nashbrydges use any solution that works for your provider or hypervisor.

                                            Thanks, yeah that makes obvious sense, but the question is related to on-premises physical box FreePBX installs. I have a couple clients with Sangoma FreePBX appliances (no HA) so it's for these specific use-cases that I was asking about.

                                            Honestly, and I have clients who've done this, the first thing we do is get them off of the physical boxes. If it's important enough to want to run, it's important enough to run well. The physical boxes just make everything more fragile and difficult, especially when it comes to backups and restores. While I understand some people might deploy this way, we always approach this as "fix it" rather than "live with it".

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