Looking to ditch windows at work....
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Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux? We currently have Exchange 2010 so the webmail isn't exactly full featured like it is on newer versions.
Push notifications are requirement for me.
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@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux? We currently have Exchange 2010 so the webmail isn't exactly full featured like it is on newer versions.
Push notifications are requirement for me.
Too expensive to upgrade to Exchange 2016 or migrate to O365?
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There are many good Outlook alternatives, I dont think that should be your worry. More like the users and the look and feel of everything.
When I made the choice of installing Fedora LXDE/LXQT on thin clients and we have around 34 of them, the whole reason it worked was everything needs to be done via web browser and when you do that, you dont need Windows OS anymore, just Linux + good printer companies with Linux drivers like Xerox.
https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-office-outlook/?platform=linux
If you users and company have Exchange, you need (forced) to use Outlook, maybe in the future when the use OWA or stuff like that, they can rely on web browsers only. But yeah if you really want to change this I think you need to change the core thing that is being an anchor which is Exchange server to something that has better clients.
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@emad-r How do the users like LXQT? Did they come from Windows?
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Before moving to Exchange 2016, I was using Evolution.
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@wls-itguy said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux? We currently have Exchange 2010 so the webmail isn't exactly full featured like it is on newer versions.
Push notifications are requirement for me.
Too expensive to upgrade to Exchange 2016 or migrate to O365?
A really big org where I dont have control over this kind of stuff. O365 is on the roadmap, but probably another year or so away.
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@emad-r said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
There are many good Outlook alternatives, I dont think that should be your worry. More like the users and the look and feel of everything.
When I made the choice of installing Fedora LXDE/LXQT on thin clients and we have around 34 of them, the whole reason it worked was everything needs to be done via web browser and when you do that, you dont need Windows OS anymore, just Linux + good printer companies with Linux drivers like Xerox.
https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-office-outlook/?platform=linux
If you users and company have Exchange, you need (forced) to use Outlook, maybe in the future when the use OWA or stuff like that, they can rely on web browsers only. But yeah if you really want to change this I think you need to change the core thing that is being an anchor which is Exchange server to something that has better clients.
I am just looking for myself, so it doesnt necessarily have to be user friendly. I will also run a Windows VM to do certain, rare tasks that require Windows.
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@black3dynamite said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Before moving to Exchange 2016, I was using Evolution.
Yep. Looking at this one now...
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@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@emad-r said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
There are many good Outlook alternatives, I dont think that should be your worry. More like the users and the look and feel of everything.
When I made the choice of installing Fedora LXDE/LXQT on thin clients and we have around 34 of them, the whole reason it worked was everything needs to be done via web browser and when you do that, you dont need Windows OS anymore, just Linux + good printer companies with Linux drivers like Xerox.
https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-office-outlook/?platform=linux
If you users and company have Exchange, you need (forced) to use Outlook, maybe in the future when the use OWA or stuff like that, they can rely on web browsers only. But yeah if you really want to change this I think you need to change the core thing that is being an anchor which is Exchange server to something that has better clients.
I am just looking for myself, so it doesnt necessarily have to be user friendly. I will also run a Windows VM to do certain, rare tasks that require Windows.
My Windows VM is always active, it's actually set to autostart.
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@black3dynamite said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@emad-r said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
There are many good Outlook alternatives, I dont think that should be your worry. More like the users and the look and feel of everything.
When I made the choice of installing Fedora LXDE/LXQT on thin clients and we have around 34 of them, the whole reason it worked was everything needs to be done via web browser and when you do that, you dont need Windows OS anymore, just Linux + good printer companies with Linux drivers like Xerox.
https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-office-outlook/?platform=linux
If you users and company have Exchange, you need (forced) to use Outlook, maybe in the future when the use OWA or stuff like that, they can rely on web browsers only. But yeah if you really want to change this I think you need to change the core thing that is being an anchor which is Exchange server to something that has better clients.
I am just looking for myself, so it doesnt necessarily have to be user friendly. I will also run a Windows VM to do certain, rare tasks that require Windows.
My Windows VM is always active, it's actually set to autostart.
What are you using as hypervisor?
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@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@black3dynamite said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@emad-r said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
There are many good Outlook alternatives, I dont think that should be your worry. More like the users and the look and feel of everything.
When I made the choice of installing Fedora LXDE/LXQT on thin clients and we have around 34 of them, the whole reason it worked was everything needs to be done via web browser and when you do that, you dont need Windows OS anymore, just Linux + good printer companies with Linux drivers like Xerox.
https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-office-outlook/?platform=linux
If you users and company have Exchange, you need (forced) to use Outlook, maybe in the future when the use OWA or stuff like that, they can rely on web browsers only. But yeah if you really want to change this I think you need to change the core thing that is being an anchor which is Exchange server to something that has better clients.
I am just looking for myself, so it doesnt necessarily have to be user friendly. I will also run a Windows VM to do certain, rare tasks that require Windows.
My Windows VM is always active, it's actually set to autostart.
What are you using as hypervisor?
KVM.
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I believe this will pick up steam with more and more things being pushed to the cloud. As we use cloud technologies more the OS on our systems become less important and easier to use. Let's think about it. If everything you do is cloud based a Chromebook is a great option. Boots fast and if you get 4GB of memory it doesn't usually slow down. If you have a Windows based VM, you can RDP into it from your Chromebook.
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@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@wls-itguy said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux? We currently have Exchange 2010 so the webmail isn't exactly full featured like it is on newer versions.
Push notifications are requirement for me.
Too expensive to upgrade to Exchange 2016 or migrate to O365?
A really big org where I dont have control over this kind of stuff. O365 is on the roadmap, but probably another year or so away.
If you are moving to Office 365 in a year then Linux will work with the OWA interface and that should be sufficient.
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@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux?
Same as on any platform, the best alternative to Outlook is "anything but Outlook."
In all seriousness, what does Outlook do that you want to replicate? Outlook does a lot, and is different for every person. For normal users, Outlook doesn't do anything special that isn't covered by OWA, Thunderbird, MailSpring, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux?
Same as on any platform, the best alternative to Outlook is "anything but Outlook."
In all seriousness, what does Outlook do that you want to replicate? Outlook does a lot, and is different for every person. For normal users, Outlook doesn't do anything special that isn't covered by OWA, Thunderbird, MailSpring, etc.
I guess I am not sure how Exchange objects such as resource rooms will work in something like Evolution. Everyone here uses Outlook calendar for scheduling. I , like many people out there, am not using the Outlook to it's fullest extent. It is essentially email and a calendar.
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@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux?
Same as on any platform, the best alternative to Outlook is "anything but Outlook."
In all seriousness, what does Outlook do that you want to replicate? Outlook does a lot, and is different for every person. For normal users, Outlook doesn't do anything special that isn't covered by OWA, Thunderbird, MailSpring, etc.
I guess I am not sure how Exchange objects such as resource rooms will work in something like Evolution. Everyone here uses Outlook calendar for scheduling. I , like many people out there, am not using the Outlook to it's fullest extent. It is essentially email and a calendar.
Well, you can use your Windows VM with Outlook installed. It just sucks you have to use a VM because of Outlook.
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@irj Evolution should work then in your case. If you are just email and a calendar.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@irj said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
Is there any legitimate contenders for Outlook on Linux?
Same as on any platform, the best alternative to Outlook is "anything but Outlook."
In all seriousness, what does Outlook do that you want to replicate? Outlook does a lot, and is different for every person. For normal users, Outlook doesn't do anything special that isn't covered by OWA, Thunderbird, MailSpring, etc.
I know this is (actually a Word feature) available in Outlook that seemed to be a killer feature for the users I once supported.
https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/outlook/1638-outlook-quick-parts-edit.html
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@obsolesce said in Looking to ditch windows at work....:
@emad-r How do the users like LXQT? Did they come from Windows?
Well they rarely use LXQT, and yh they come from Win 7. and they usually utilize the chrome session that pops up after machine boots up.
I think they think its minimal and limited, but who gives a shit what they think, it is very secure it auto logins on standard user account with chrome, and I manage them via saltstack and push stuff like" dnf install chrome " they did notice that the battery life becomes huge and very long, and it is lighter.
But they would love to MS office on it they keep requesting this, and like Fuck no the reason it is thin client is to have all the patient data stored on the system, once you have office on it, the next thing is patient data being transfered via WhatsApp. And before you say LibreOffice it does not play nice with the format of MS Office, if only there is way to limit MS office saved extension files to something open instead of default prison format.
What do you know, there is :
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/change-the-default-file-format-for-saving-workbooks-16318414-f050-40b8-8b17-23ff5f381fb5
