Do we dislike Ubuntu
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@matteo-nunziati said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@black3dynamite said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@matteo-nunziati said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I'm quite opposite: when developping stuff I really like to reduce the amount of maintanance of the OS. Of course too old is something I don't like, therefore I find a good balance by using ubuntu LTS and recently I've done a short test on opensuse leap too.
Yes you have no support but I don't search for it. what you have to do is installing security fixes, and I trust both ubuntu e opensuse enough to set automatic updates for fixes only. On the other hand I got stable API and ABI to develop against.
Nice to me.
I would also like debian but they have a quite short release cycle. To me ubuntu is a sort of LTS over a debian base (ubuntu is something like 75% debian - and when I install ubuntu minimal I got something like 100% debian - on the source everything is recompiled).
Debian LTS
https://wiki.debian.org/LTSI'm aware of it, but currently it is a best effort solution not a proper one.
I just noticed that it is not handled by the Debian security team.
Debian LTS will not be handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies interested in making it a success.
Thus the Debian LTS team takes over security maintenance of the various releases once the Debian Security team stops its work. -
@black3dynamite said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@matteo-nunziati said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@black3dynamite said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@matteo-nunziati said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I'm quite opposite: when developping stuff I really like to reduce the amount of maintanance of the OS. Of course too old is something I don't like, therefore I find a good balance by using ubuntu LTS and recently I've done a short test on opensuse leap too.
Yes you have no support but I don't search for it. what you have to do is installing security fixes, and I trust both ubuntu e opensuse enough to set automatic updates for fixes only. On the other hand I got stable API and ABI to develop against.
Nice to me.
I would also like debian but they have a quite short release cycle. To me ubuntu is a sort of LTS over a debian base (ubuntu is something like 75% debian - and when I install ubuntu minimal I got something like 100% debian - on the source everything is recompiled).
Debian LTS
https://wiki.debian.org/LTSI'm aware of it, but currently it is a best effort solution not a proper one.
I just noticed that it is not handled by the Debian security team.
Debian LTS will not be handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies interested in making it a success.
Thus the Debian LTS team takes over security maintenance of the various releases once the Debian Security team stops its work.Yeah I think I'll stick with Fedora based distros. I don't feel like dealing with the Wild Wild West crap. Windows is bad enough.
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@black3dynamite said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@matteo-nunziati said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@black3dynamite said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@matteo-nunziati said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I'm quite opposite: when developping stuff I really like to reduce the amount of maintanance of the OS. Of course too old is something I don't like, therefore I find a good balance by using ubuntu LTS and recently I've done a short test on opensuse leap too.
Yes you have no support but I don't search for it. what you have to do is installing security fixes, and I trust both ubuntu e opensuse enough to set automatic updates for fixes only. On the other hand I got stable API and ABI to develop against.
Nice to me.
I would also like debian but they have a quite short release cycle. To me ubuntu is a sort of LTS over a debian base (ubuntu is something like 75% debian - and when I install ubuntu minimal I got something like 100% debian - on the source everything is recompiled).
Debian LTS
https://wiki.debian.org/LTSI'm aware of it, but currently it is a best effort solution not a proper one.
I just noticed that it is not handled by the Debian security team.
Debian LTS will not be handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies interested in making it a success.
Thus the Debian LTS team takes over security maintenance of the various releases once the Debian Security team stops its work.Hmmm.... I think that Debian works best as a base for things, but rarely used on its own.
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I could take it or leave it. I think they have some cool projects like Juju. The only problem I’ve had with it really is the boot partition filling up with images. I’m so used to how RHEL deals with that I forget about it.
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@stacksofplates said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I could take it or leave it. I think they have some cool projects like Juju. The only problem I’ve had with it really is the boot partition filling up with images. I’m so used to how RHEL deals with that I forget about it.
OMG that is such a pain!!
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@scottalanmiller said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@stacksofplates said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I could take it or leave it. I think they have some cool projects like Juju. The only problem I’ve had with it really is the boot partition filling up with images. I’m so used to how RHEL deals with that I forget about it.
OMG that is such a pain!!
Such a silly one as well, for something that's been automated by so many others.
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@travisdh1 said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@scottalanmiller said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@stacksofplates said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I could take it or leave it. I think they have some cool projects like Juju. The only problem I’ve had with it really is the boot partition filling up with images. I’m so used to how RHEL deals with that I forget about it.
OMG that is such a pain!!
Such a silly one as well, for something that's been automated by so many others.
Indeed, it is ridiculous.
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@scottalanmiller said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@stacksofplates said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
I could take it or leave it. I think they have some cool projects like Juju. The only problem I’ve had with it really is the boot partition filling up with images. I’m so used to how RHEL deals with that I forget about it.
OMG that is such a pain!!
I agree
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Tl;dr
As a casual, sometimes user of Linux, I started with Ubuntu and have had several flavours of it and I like it... HOWEVER, I don’t like the bundled Amazon stuff and I really didn’t like unity.My favourite bit was the Steam support.
Now that I’m sort of looking into some test bunny stuff at home, I’m considering an entirely different flavour of Linux.
I liked the CentOS install I had on my short lived VPS, so I’ll probably try fedora.
I don’t dislike Ubuntu, I just don’t agree with some of their decisions.
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@nadnerb said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
Tl;dr
As a casual, sometimes user of Linux, I started with Ubuntu and have had several flavours of it and I like it... HOWEVER, I don’t like the bundled Amazon stuff and I really didn’t like unity.My favourite bit was the Steam support.
Now that I’m sort of looking into some test bunny stuff at home, I’m considering an entirely different flavour of Linux.
I liked the CentOS install I had on my short lived VPS, so I’ll probably try fedora.
I don’t dislike Ubuntu, I just don’t agree with some of their decisions.
Deepin integrates Steam even better than Ubuntu does.
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@scottalanmiller said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@nadnerb said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
Tl;dr
As a casual, sometimes user of Linux, I started with Ubuntu and have had several flavours of it and I like it... HOWEVER, I don’t like the bundled Amazon stuff and I really didn’t like unity.My favourite bit was the Steam support.
Now that I’m sort of looking into some test bunny stuff at home, I’m considering an entirely different flavour of Linux.
I liked the CentOS install I had on my short lived VPS, so I’ll probably try fedora.
I don’t dislike Ubuntu, I just don’t agree with some of their decisions.
Deepin integrates Steam even better than Ubuntu does.
Good stuff. That's Definately something I'll have a look at then.
I'm not yet cemented into a distro. I think I'd like to remain distro agnostic. -
@nadnerb said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@scottalanmiller said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@nadnerb said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
Tl;dr
As a casual, sometimes user of Linux, I started with Ubuntu and have had several flavours of it and I like it... HOWEVER, I don’t like the bundled Amazon stuff and I really didn’t like unity.My favourite bit was the Steam support.
Now that I’m sort of looking into some test bunny stuff at home, I’m considering an entirely different flavour of Linux.
I liked the CentOS install I had on my short lived VPS, so I’ll probably try fedora.
I don’t dislike Ubuntu, I just don’t agree with some of their decisions.
Deepin integrates Steam even better than Ubuntu does.
Good stuff. That's Definately something I'll have a look at then.
I'm not yet cemented into a distro. I think I'd like to remain distro agnostic.There is no real distro agnostic, that's like being OS agnostic. At some point, you have to use one
I used Fedora and Deepin as my daily drivers. And the wife uses Ubuntu.
I keep Mint, Solus, Elementary, Zorin, Debian, and CentOS in the lab.
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@nadnerb ElementaryOS is nice but you might not like the idea of not able to save items to your Desktop. Deepin is pretty good too.
On my home Desktop, Fedora Gnome is my preferred, then again, I've always be a fan of using distros that uses Gnome. But I do have Deepin, Elementary and Linux Mint has a VM because I like to keep up with what's going on with them.
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@black3dynamite said in Do we dislike Ubuntu:
@nadnerb ElementaryOS is nice but you might not like the idea of not able to save items to your Desktop. Deepin is pretty good too.
Just not on by default. You can enable it...
