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    • AdamFA
      AdamF
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      The ER-Lite boxes have a "Smart" QoS wizard. The way I've always understood it, it works as follows:

      You fill in the line speeds of the service you are actually paying for.

      Example:0_1516985914606_QoS.png

      The above screenshot is from my home, so the speed in the boxes doesn't line up with the rest of the details here, it's just and example.

      So if you pay for 100/10, that's what you put in the boxes. I do this at the office, at home, and other clients. However, I ran into a situation where using the Smart QoS wizard, actually really limits the DL speed.

      I did a speed test with the QoS setting ON, and got the proper UL speed, but was limited to 50-60 DL speed. As soon as I removed QoS, I got the proper speed of 100 DL and 10 UL.

      Has anyone experience this before on the Edge Routers? Perhaps @JaredBusch ?

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @AdamF
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @fuznutz04 said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

        The ER-Lite boxes have a "Smart" QoS wizard. The way I've always understood it, it works as follows:

        You fill in the line speeds of the service you are actually paying for.

        Example:0_1516985914606_QoS.png

        The above screenshot is from my home, so the speed in the boxes doesn't line up with the rest of the details here, it's just and example.

        So if you pay for 100/10, that's what you put in the boxes. I do this at the office, at home, and other clients. However, I ran into a situation where using the Smart QoS wizard, actually really limits the DL speed.

        I did a speed test with the QoS setting ON, and got the proper UL speed, but was limited to 50-60 DL speed. As soon as I removed QoS, I got the proper speed of 100 DL and 10 UL.

        Has anyone experience this before on the Edge Routers? Perhaps @JaredBusch ?

        This is normal and expected because traffic policies and the smart queue policies both force traffic to not be offloaded.

        The CPU in the ERL cannot process traffic faster than ~60mbps without the offload functionality.

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        • brianlittlejohnB
          brianlittlejohn
          last edited by

          Was about to say the same thing, @JaredBusch beat me to it.

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          • AdamFA
            AdamF @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @jaredbusch said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

            @fuznutz04 said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

            The ER-Lite boxes have a "Smart" QoS wizard. The way I've always understood it, it works as follows:

            You fill in the line speeds of the service you are actually paying for.

            Example:0_1516985914606_QoS.png

            The above screenshot is from my home, so the speed in the boxes doesn't line up with the rest of the details here, it's just and example.

            So if you pay for 100/10, that's what you put in the boxes. I do this at the office, at home, and other clients. However, I ran into a situation where using the Smart QoS wizard, actually really limits the DL speed.

            I did a speed test with the QoS setting ON, and got the proper UL speed, but was limited to 50-60 DL speed. As soon as I removed QoS, I got the proper speed of 100 DL and 10 UL.

            Has anyone experience this before on the Edge Routers? Perhaps @JaredBusch ?

            This is normal and expected because traffic policies and the smart queue policies both force traffic to not be offloaded.

            The CPU in the ERL cannot process traffic faster than ~60mbps without the offload functionality.

            Well alright then. Simple explanation. I’ve never run into this, because we have such slow speeds around here. So this would be an example where I could upgrade to the next model. Perhaps the ER4? I haven’t read the spec sheets yet on them.

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn
              last edited by

              I believe the ERX will offload some of the processing.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @brianlittlejohn
                last edited by

                @brianlittlejohn said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                I believe the ERX will offload some of the processing.

                No it will not. The OS is the same, and the unit operates precisely the same.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @AdamF
                  last edited by

                  @fuznutz04 said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                  @jaredbusch said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                  @fuznutz04 said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                  The ER-Lite boxes have a "Smart" QoS wizard. The way I've always understood it, it works as follows:

                  You fill in the line speeds of the service you are actually paying for.

                  Example:0_1516985914606_QoS.png

                  The above screenshot is from my home, so the speed in the boxes doesn't line up with the rest of the details here, it's just and example.

                  So if you pay for 100/10, that's what you put in the boxes. I do this at the office, at home, and other clients. However, I ran into a situation where using the Smart QoS wizard, actually really limits the DL speed.

                  I did a speed test with the QoS setting ON, and got the proper UL speed, but was limited to 50-60 DL speed. As soon as I removed QoS, I got the proper speed of 100 DL and 10 UL.

                  Has anyone experience this before on the Edge Routers? Perhaps @JaredBusch ?

                  This is normal and expected because traffic policies and the smart queue policies both force traffic to not be offloaded.

                  The CPU in the ERL cannot process traffic faster than ~60mbps without the offload functionality.

                  Well alright then. Simple explanation. I’ve never run into this, because we have such slow speeds around here. So this would be an example where I could upgrade to the next model. Perhaps the ER4? I haven’t read the spec sheets yet on them.

                  Correct using a different model is what is required to obtain better speeds in this situation.

                  The ERX will perform better because it has a better CPU than the ERL. But it has less memory which leads to other problems.

                  The ER4 is light years ahead of the ERL by comparison due to the newer CPU.

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                  • AdamFA
                    AdamF @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                    @fuznutz04 said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                    @jaredbusch said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                    @fuznutz04 said in EdgeRouter "Smart" QoS issue:

                    The ER-Lite boxes have a "Smart" QoS wizard. The way I've always understood it, it works as follows:

                    You fill in the line speeds of the service you are actually paying for.

                    Example:0_1516985914606_QoS.png

                    The above screenshot is from my home, so the speed in the boxes doesn't line up with the rest of the details here, it's just and example.

                    So if you pay for 100/10, that's what you put in the boxes. I do this at the office, at home, and other clients. However, I ran into a situation where using the Smart QoS wizard, actually really limits the DL speed.

                    I did a speed test with the QoS setting ON, and got the proper UL speed, but was limited to 50-60 DL speed. As soon as I removed QoS, I got the proper speed of 100 DL and 10 UL.

                    Has anyone experience this before on the Edge Routers? Perhaps @JaredBusch ?

                    This is normal and expected because traffic policies and the smart queue policies both force traffic to not be offloaded.

                    The CPU in the ERL cannot process traffic faster than ~60mbps without the offload functionality.

                    Well alright then. Simple explanation. I’ve never run into this, because we have such slow speeds around here. So this would be an example where I could upgrade to the next model. Perhaps the ER4? I haven’t read the spec sheets yet on them.

                    Correct using a different model is what is required to obtain better speeds in this situation.

                    The ERX will perform better because it has a better CPU than the ERL. But it has less memory which leads to other problems.

                    The ER4 is light years ahead of the ERL by comparison due to the newer CPU.

                    OK great. Looks like I'll need to start recommending these now. First, I want to get one for myself at my office. Did you manage to get your hands on one yet?

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