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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @dave247
      last edited by

      @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

      @dashrender said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

      yeah, you definitely don't want to have Windows 10 do auto upgrades to a new version until you test it on some users.

      I have a client that is 10 PCs.. so no WSUS, not worth it, the auto upgrade to 1709 caused issues with Webroot. Definitely test before full rollout.

      Well the Windows 10 systems we have are all on 1709, so I guess I'm going to consider them my test group for now..

      lol, then 1803 will be your first test of this. 😉

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        Another reason to split everything up at least by OS is because it makes approving updates easier. You can show only, for example, Critical, definition, and security updates for Win7, then approve them all for the Win7 WSUS groups. Then everything else should happen automatically including reboots if needed.

        Also, I have clients checking WSUS for updates ever 6 hours. So if I do approve an update, the clients will download the update from WSUS, then install it according to the schedule set in group policy.

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        • dave247D
          dave247
          last edited by dave247

          Well crap... I'm back to having that connection error again. I only have about 8 computers added to WSUS and I've deselected a bunch of products and classifications I didn't really need. Should I consider increasing the private memory limit and queue lengths again?

          I haven't had the connection error since I made those changes Tim_G suggested I make to the WSUS resource pool. It's worth mentioning that the server has been pretty slow since adding the WSUS role. I literally have nothing else running on this system and it's a dual six-core processors (@ 2.20 GHz) and 56.0 GB of memory. I thought this would be sufficient..

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            My system is a VM with 6 GB ram and 2 vCPU.

            Your resources are way over kill.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
              last edited by

              We've got ~500 systems on 8GB of RAM with 2vCPUs.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                I get the error posted in the OP every now and again from the WSUS console on my Win10 PC. A reset always reconnects it.

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato
                  last edited by

                  I have a VM with 2vCPU and 8 GB of RAM for WSUS and about 250 devices.

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                  • dave247D
                    dave247 @Dashrender
                    last edited by dave247

                    @dashrender

                    Holy crap... I don't understand why it keeps getting disconnected or why it's chugging along. Although, it's reconnected now and seems to be stable.

                    One other question for you guys: What do you do about other non-Microsoft updates, like Java and Adobe. Does WSUS cover any of that at all?

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @dave247
                      last edited by

                      @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                      @dashrender

                      Holy crap... I don't understand why it keeps getting disconnected or why it's chugging along. Although, it's reconnected now and seems to be stable.

                      One other question for you guys: What do you do about other non-Microsoft updates, like Java and Adobe. Does WSUS cover any of that at all?

                      I've used a combination of pdq inventory and pdq deploy for managing 3rd party updates

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                      • dave247D
                        dave247 @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @irj said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                        @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                        @dashrender

                        Holy crap... I don't understand why it keeps getting disconnected or why it's chugging along. Although, it's reconnected now and seems to be stable.

                        One other question for you guys: What do you do about other non-Microsoft updates, like Java and Adobe. Does WSUS cover any of that at all?

                        I've used a combination of pdq inventory and pdq deploy for managing 3rd party updates

                        We have DesktopCentral. I guess I will keep using that for 3rd party updates as well as some software deployment.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @dave247
                          last edited by

                          @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                          Well crap... I'm back to having that connection error again. I only have about 8 computers added to WSUS and I've deselected a bunch of products and classifications I didn't really need. Should I consider increasing the private memory limit and queue lengths again?

                          I haven't had the connection error since I made those changes Tim_G suggested I make to the WSUS resource pool. It's worth mentioning that the server has been pretty slow since adding the WSUS role. I literally have nothing else running on this system and it's a dual six-core processors (@ 2.20 GHz) and 56.0 GB of memory. I thought this would be sufficient..

                          Maybe it's busy downloading every available update.

                          I made sure to set it to only download approved updates. That's saves so much space and bandwidth.

                          But yeah that's way overkill on server resources. I use similar to what others mentioned with over 600 managed devices.

                          I've been doing WSUS for years and don't have these issues. The only issue I had cleared up and never came back... the one I said earlier.

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                          • dave247D
                            dave247 @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                            @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                            Well crap... I'm back to having that connection error again. I only have about 8 computers added to WSUS and I've deselected a bunch of products and classifications I didn't really need. Should I consider increasing the private memory limit and queue lengths again?

                            I haven't had the connection error since I made those changes Tim_G suggested I make to the WSUS resource pool. It's worth mentioning that the server has been pretty slow since adding the WSUS role. I literally have nothing else running on this system and it's a dual six-core processors (@ 2.20 GHz) and 56.0 GB of memory. I thought this would be sufficient..

                            Maybe it's busy downloading every available update.

                            I made sure to set it to only download approved updates. That's saves so much space and bandwidth.

                            But yeah that's way overkill on server resources. I use similar to what others mentioned with over 600 managed devices.

                            I've been doing WSUS for years and don't have these issues. The only issue I had cleared up and never came back... the one I said earlier.

                            ok I will look to set that option.. I'm sure I messed up somewhere in there..

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @dave247
                              last edited by

                              @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                              @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                              @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                              Well crap... I'm back to having that connection error again. I only have about 8 computers added to WSUS and I've deselected a bunch of products and classifications I didn't really need. Should I consider increasing the private memory limit and queue lengths again?

                              I haven't had the connection error since I made those changes Tim_G suggested I make to the WSUS resource pool. It's worth mentioning that the server has been pretty slow since adding the WSUS role. I literally have nothing else running on this system and it's a dual six-core processors (@ 2.20 GHz) and 56.0 GB of memory. I thought this would be sufficient..

                              Maybe it's busy downloading every available update.

                              I made sure to set it to only download approved updates. That's saves so much space and bandwidth.

                              But yeah that's way overkill on server resources. I use similar to what others mentioned with over 600 managed devices.

                              I've been doing WSUS for years and don't have these issues. The only issue I had cleared up and never came back... the one I said earlier.

                              ok I will look to set that option.. I'm sure I messed up somewhere in there..

                              Yeah, a server busy doing downloads/catalog updates, etc can definitely cause it to be sluggish. You also need to do weekly if not daily maintenance on WSUS (or use the scripts posted on SW) to keep WSUS tight.

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                              • dave247D
                                dave247 @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                Well crap... I'm back to having that connection error again. I only have about 8 computers added to WSUS and I've deselected a bunch of products and classifications I didn't really need. Should I consider increasing the private memory limit and queue lengths again?

                                I haven't had the connection error since I made those changes Tim_G suggested I make to the WSUS resource pool. It's worth mentioning that the server has been pretty slow since adding the WSUS role. I literally have nothing else running on this system and it's a dual six-core processors (@ 2.20 GHz) and 56.0 GB of memory. I thought this would be sufficient..

                                Maybe it's busy downloading every available update.

                                I made sure to set it to only download approved updates. That's saves so much space and bandwidth.

                                Ah, according to your guide (which I followed) you said to un-check that option:
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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @dave247
                                  last edited by

                                  @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  @tim_g said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                  Well crap... I'm back to having that connection error again. I only have about 8 computers added to WSUS and I've deselected a bunch of products and classifications I didn't really need. Should I consider increasing the private memory limit and queue lengths again?

                                  I haven't had the connection error since I made those changes Tim_G suggested I make to the WSUS resource pool. It's worth mentioning that the server has been pretty slow since adding the WSUS role. I literally have nothing else running on this system and it's a dual six-core processors (@ 2.20 GHz) and 56.0 GB of memory. I thought this would be sufficient..

                                  Maybe it's busy downloading every available update.

                                  I made sure to set it to only download approved updates. That's saves so much space and bandwidth.

                                  Ah, according to your guide (which I followed) you said to un-check that option:
                                  0_1515009861381_1a63d094-7fb7-4655-9b48-1881001d40fa-image.png

                                  Yes, but if you want a feature, use it. I ended up checking it.

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                                  • dave247D
                                    dave247
                                    last edited by

                                    I still haven't been able to get WSUS to work. Such bullshit. Luckily I have my 3rd party tool that I can depend on...

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @dave247
                                      last edited by

                                      @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                      I still haven't been able to get WSUS to work. Such bullshit. Luckily I have my 3rd party tool that I can depend on...

                                      So strange, never had this problem like this yet.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        How about starting over from scratch.

                                        Delete the GPOs you made
                                        format the host you made (rebuild it as a Hyper-V or KVM then install a VM of 2016, etc)
                                        create new GPOs, but limit it to a small testing scope
                                        then expand.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @dave247
                                          last edited by

                                          @dave247 said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                          I still haven't been able to get WSUS to work. Such bullshit. Luckily I have my 3rd party tool that I can depend on...

                                          That's odd... it's always just worked whenever I've set it up.

                                          What exactly isn't working?

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                                          • dave247D
                                            dave247 @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in Constant WSUS issues (Connection Errors):

                                            How about starting over from scratch.

                                            Delete the GPOs you made
                                            format the host you made (rebuild it as a Hyper-V or KVM then install a VM of 2016, etc)
                                            create new GPOs, but limit it to a small testing scope
                                            then expand.

                                            Yeah I've started over from scratch 3 different times and no dice. 3 completely different servers. And it's not like it's my firewall because wsus has actually downloaded updates and installed some.

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