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    KVM in Production - Build it yourself

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      dave_c
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      I am starting to play with KVM after using XenServer for a while. While looking for a good KVM backup solution I found:
      https://github.com/jagane/qemu-kvm-livebackup
      https://www.linux-kvm.org/images/b/b6/2011-forum-LiveBackup.pdf

      I will be testing as soon as possible (probably in 1 week). Does anyone has any experience with it?

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        Obsolesce @dave_c
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        @dave_c said in KVM in Production - Build it yourself:

        I am starting to play with KVM after using XenServer for a while. While looking for a good KVM backup solution I found:
        https://github.com/jagane/qemu-kvm-livebackup
        https://www.linux-kvm.org/images/b/b6/2011-forum-LiveBackup.pdf

        I will be testing as soon as possible (probably in 1 week). Does anyone has any experience with it?

        The last commit was in 2011. Is it still usable?

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          dave_c
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          Yes, I know. I am reading documentation and some of the source to determine if it is viable or not. So far it seems like some of the features it implements have been some how included in libvirt. Perhaps it would be a good challenge to bring this up to date.

          The most important question is: Does anyone know a complete open source backup system for KVM? Like xen-orchestra for XS
          I know about convirture and vprotect; seems like SEP has something but I am looking for open source (you know, because of reasons)

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @dave_c
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            @dave_c said in KVM in Production - Build it yourself:

            Yes, I know. I am reading documentation and some of the source to determine if it is viable or not. So far it seems like some of the features it implements have been some how included in libvirt. Perhaps it would be a good challenge to bring this up to date.

            The most important question is: Does anyone know a complete open source backup system for KVM? Like xen-orchestra for XS
            I know about convirture and vprotect; seems like SEP has something but I am looking for open source (you know, because of reasons)

            Backups should be super easy. Take a snapshot -> copy the original disk image file -> remove snapshot, done.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in KVM in Production - Build it yourself:

              @dave_c said in KVM in Production - Build it yourself:

              Yes, I know. I am reading documentation and some of the source to determine if it is viable or not. So far it seems like some of the features it implements have been some how included in libvirt. Perhaps it would be a good challenge to bring this up to date.

              The most important question is: Does anyone know a complete open source backup system for KVM? Like xen-orchestra for XS
              I know about convirture and vprotect; seems like SEP has something but I am looking for open source (you know, because of reasons)

              Backups should be super easy. Take a snapshot -> copy the original disk image file -> remove snapshot, done.

              Backups are totally not that that easy.

              Sure they are is you have unlimited storage and unlimited bandwidth on 1 Gbps+ connections.

              But in the real world, we need incrementals and/or differentials of those snaphots.

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                dave_c @JaredBusch
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                But in the real world, we need incrementals and/or differentials of those snaphots.

                Exactly. And please, a super easy and fast way to recover, either a VM or a file.
                I know that Veeam/Xen Orchestra and others make backups look really easy and I would like something like that for KVM.
                So far, https://github.com/dguerri/LibVirtKvm-scripts looks great on paper.

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                  black3dynamite
                  last edited by black3dynamite

                  Has anyone ever used ShadowProtect SPX with KVM?

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                    dave_c @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite
                    Interesting question. Since Veeam added agents I completely forgot about ShadowProtect.
                    in my case, I am looking for Hypervisor based backups; otherwise Veeam and even Acronis work well for agent based backups.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dave_c
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      @dave_c said in KVM in Production - Build it yourself:

                      @black3dynamite
                      Interesting question. Since Veeam added agents I completely forgot about ShadowProtect.
                      in my case, I am looking for Hypervisor based backups; otherwise Veeam and even Acronis work well for agent based backups.

                      I am in this boat. I want hypervisor backups. I have application backups and shit. But those are rarely as easy as restoring the entire hypervisor.

                      State controlled systems need not apply. This is regarding real world SMB workloads.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        Building a template VM with your backup agent installed might work (urbackup etc) as they'd register to your server.

                        Buy individual agents is again more than anyone really wants to manage.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 said in KVM in Production - Build it yourself:

                          Building a template VM with your backup agent installed might work (urbackup etc) as they'd register to your server.

                          Buy individual agents is again more than anyone really wants to manage.

                          I think we have two KVM backup discussions going on, so I'll post a link to my other reply here:

                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/15826/kvm-and-back-ups/23

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