XCP-ng project
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Hi there,
You probably heard about XenServer 7.3 release and some of its features removed.
So, I started a GitHub organization called "xcp-ng", hosting all the repo needed to make a XenServer OS from the sources. It's 100% community backed.
I actually hired (part time but still) an former XAPI developer, so it will accelerate the pace soon. I think we'll be able to release something in Q1, without any feature restriction (think vGPU + everything) and turnkey as XenServer itself.
If it works well, the door for including directly extra stuff in the project is opened: our Gluster driver for example (and a Ceph driver too), better compression algorithm, CentOS packages available, community contribution etc.
Obviously, we'll start small (probably re-using bunch of existing RPMs), but then we'll try to build more and more from the sources. But the ultimate goal is to have just a RPM repo to install from a CentOS and then use
yum upgradeto stay up-to-date!All contributions are welcome, if you want to join the GitHub org, feel free to ask!
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@olivier said in XCP-ng project:
Hi there,
You probably heard about XenServer 7.3 release and some of its features removed.
So, I started a GitHub organization called "xcp-ng", hosting all the repo needed to make a XenServer OS from the sources. It's 100% community backed.
I actually hired (part time but still) an former XAPI developer, so it will accelerate the pace soon. I think we'll be able to release something in Q1, without any feature restriction (think vGPU + everything) and turnkey as XenServer itself.
If it works well, the door for including directly extra stuff in the project is opened: our Gluster driver for example (and a Ceph driver too), better compression algorithm, CentOS packages available, community contribution etc.
Obviously, we'll start small (probably re-using bunch of existing RPMs), but then we'll try to build more and more from the sources. But the ultimate goal is to have just a RPM repo to install from a CentOS and then use
yum upgradeto stay up-to-date!All contributions are welcome, if you want to join the GitHub org, feel free to ask!
Way to go! Awesome to see someone use Open Source like Scott keeps bragging about.
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That is awesome. I may be able to help testing stuff, but i am no developer.
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@olivier Awesome !Thank you so much oliver !. I know programming in python in intermediate level. However, I am full time system administrator with som devops background. I can help for testing
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I bet that there are some quick advancements to make this leapfrog over XenServer, too. Like moving to XFS or BtrFs or even ZFS.
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@scottalanmiller said in XCP-ng project:
I bet that there are some quick advancements to make this leapfrog over XenServer, too. Like moving to XFS or BtrFs or even ZFS.
Anything to get away from ext3.
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@scottalanmiller Yes, good idea. This would be doable to add ZFS support for local SR. I can do it in a week if I have a week free
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@olivier said in XCP-ng project:
@scottalanmiller Yes, good idea. This would be doable to add ZFS support for local SR. I can do it in a week if I have a week free
This alone would crush XenServer.
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I just want to toot my own horn and say that I first suggested this or something like it fourteen months ago to @olivier .... it just took Citrix' decline for another year to invoke some action
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@olivier may I suggest to adjust the payload from "XenServer build from the sources" in "XenServer built from the sources"?!
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@scottalanmiller said in XCP-ng project:
I just want to toot my own horn and say that I first suggested this or something like it fourteen months ago to @olivier .... it just took Citrix' decline for another year to invoke some action
Yeah, but without enough incentive to do so, XenServer was more appealing. Now they removed some features, they raised the common interested to do so. And therefore people are more eager to try it now.
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@olivier said in XCP-ng project:
@scottalanmiller said in XCP-ng project:
I just want to toot my own horn and say that I first suggested this or something like it fourteen months ago to @olivier .... it just took Citrix' decline for another year to invoke some action
Yeah, but without enough incentive to do so, XenServer was more appealing. Now they removed some features, they raised the common interested to do so. And therefore people are more eager to try it now.
Or maybe some of us just say this coming
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@scottalanmiller To be right too early can be a mistake too
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@olivier said in XCP-ng project:
@scottalanmiller To be right too early can be a mistake too
You just can't invest resources without good reasons.That’s why I consider myself a futurist more than anything else.
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Very interesting...
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First PoC is here: https://xcp-ng.github.io/news/2018/01/22/xcp-ng-on-tracks.html
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@olivier said in XCP-ng project:
First PoC is here: https://xcp-ng.github.io/news/2018/01/22/xcp-ng-on-tracks.html
Awesome, congrats!
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@olivier said in XCP-ng project:
First PoC is here: https://xcp-ng.github.io/news/2018/01/22/xcp-ng-on-tracks.html
Great work!
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Good news, and quickly at that!
Question, is your build using the same versions of perl(5 year old release in XS7) and python(nearly 5 years old) as XS7.2?
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@momurda said in XCP-ng project:
Good news, and quickly at that!
Question, is your build using the same versions of perl(5 year old release in XS7) and python(nearly 5 years old) as XS7.2?
Is the plan to use more modern versions of these eventually?At the moment, this was directly from 7.2 and just disable the restrictions.
That may come down the pipe based on what I read.
