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    Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops

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    • EddieJenningsE
      EddieJennings @RojoLoco
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      @rojoloco said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

      Can I pay less for the hardware without an OS and then make it a badass chromebook?

      That's why I got my System76 laptop. Not having to buy a Windows license allowed me to get an PCI-e SSD. 🙂

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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        @eddiejennings said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

        @rojoloco said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

        Can I pay less for the hardware without an OS and then make it a badass chromebook?

        That's why I got my System76 laptop. Not having to buy a Windows license allowed me to get an PCI-e SSD. 🙂

        If only System76 would make an ARM unit!

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

          I'm just excited about the new hardware. Faster CPUs, and double the RAM of most Chromebooks with higher resolution screens - getting Fedora onto these will be great.

          Lol that's the first thing I thought of too!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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            @tim_g said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

            @scottalanmiller said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

            I'm just excited about the new hardware. Faster CPUs, and double the RAM of most Chromebooks with higher resolution screens - getting Fedora onto these will be great.

            Lol that's the first thing I thought of too!

            If I had a 22 hour Fedora laptop... damn!

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

              @tim_g said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

              @scottalanmiller said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

              I'm just excited about the new hardware. Faster CPUs, and double the RAM of most Chromebooks with higher resolution screens - getting Fedora onto these will be great.

              Lol that's the first thing I thought of too!

              If I had a 22 hour Fedora laptop... damn!

              I'd stick this right on there!

              0_1512507113521_Screenshot from 2017-12-05 12-51-29.png

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                I heard the first trials with ARM notebooks where horrible for Windows.

                I'll be very curious to see how it does in a Linux GUI setup, performance wise.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @dashrender said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

                  I heard the first trials with ARM notebooks where horrible for Windows.

                  I'll be very curious to see how it does in a Linux GUI setup, performance wise.

                  To be fair, every time I try Windows on ARM64 it's pretty bad, too. So that's not really telling us that it is any worse on ARM.

                  But really, what are people expecting? And what are they getting? Are people testing the ported OS? Or are they talking about emulated applications?

                  This is a case where the tabels are flipped. Normally people compare Linux and Windows and blame Linux for lacking something - but things they'd never even ask Windows to do. Here, we are likely doing the opposite. You'd never ask Linux to emulate a different architecture for your apps, but that's what Windows is going to do. Why, ecosystem differences. Windows has to do it for all the reasons we've complained about Windows and its app culture for decades. But it is what it is.

                  In the same situation, Linux apps would be written off as silly and an app problem. On Windows, we'll try to run them anyway.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    Wasn't the original surface an arm tablet?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

                      Wasn't the original surface an arm tablet?

                      Yep, total failure, no apps.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @coliver
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                        @coliver said in Asus and HP Announce First Windows 10 ARM Laptops:

                        Wasn't the original surface an arm tablet?

                        Yeah

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