Suggestions for new APs and Firewall
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@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
Good point - I was actually going to mention the possibility of going the other way - to the Unifi AC Lite. It's less overall bandwidth at the AP (800 Mb vs 1.2 Gb) but still above your internet connection.
The AC-HDs are good for places that have high density of devices, say a lunch room.
Good idea.
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@markferron said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
I think we'd be okay with just the Pro version. But I have to ask, anyone know why there are two ports?
backup link.
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@dashrender Meraki doesn't have that and it's like 3x as much just for hardware
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@markferron said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
I think we'd be okay with just the Pro version.
This is where business understanding really comes in. Perhaps you need the Pro version. But considering the options, possibly saving $80 per AP by using Lites might be acceptable for your situation.
i.e. Don't buy Pro just because it's called Pro.
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@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@markferron said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
I think we'd be okay with just the Pro version.
This is where business understanding really comes in. Perhaps you need the Pro version. But considering the options, possibly saving $80 per AP by using Lites might be acceptable for your situation.
i.e. Don't buy Pro just because it's called Pro.
But....pro?
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I buy pro because they are 48V POE.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
I buy pro because they are 48V POE.
The current production run of AC Lite also support standard POE.
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@markferron said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@markferron said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
I think we'd be okay with just the Pro version.
This is where business understanding really comes in. Perhaps you need the Pro version. But considering the options, possibly saving $80 per AP by using Lites might be acceptable for your situation.
i.e. Don't buy Pro just because it's called Pro.
But....pro?
I'm not sure if you're joking or not.
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@dashrender Nice... When did that happen?
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@markferron said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dashrender Meraki doesn't have that and it's like 3x as much just for hardware
Meraki has moved from being "quite good" ten years ago to "utter garbage" today. It's in no way serious gear any longer. but it was good, long ago.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dashrender Nice... When did that happen?
Found the answer... apparently back in February... missed that one.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@brianlittlejohn said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dashrender Nice... When did that happen?
Found the answer... apparently back in February... missed that one.
They aren't very deep in the channel yet. I've orderd 6 AC Lites in the past 4 months, only two of them were 802.3af, the others were passive POE 24v only.
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@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
Good point - I was actually going to mention the possibility of going the other way - to the Unifi AC Lite. It's less overall bandwidth at the AP (800 Mb vs 1.2 Gb) but still above your internet connection.
The AC-HDs are good for places that have high density of devices, say a lunch room.
Keep in mind that 800 Mb is 100 MB. So, divide that by the amount of wireless devices connected to it. It's not so great anymore and is why you need to have enough to split the connected devices proportionately.
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@dashrender I got jokes
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@tim_g said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
Good point - I was actually going to mention the possibility of going the other way - to the Unifi AC Lite. It's less overall bandwidth at the AP (800 Mb vs 1.2 Gb) but still above your internet connection.
The AC-HDs are good for places that have high density of devices, say a lunch room.
Keep in mind that 800 Mb is 100 MB. So, divide that by the amount of wireless devices connected to it. It's not so great anymore and is why you need to have enough to split the connected devices proportionately.
If everyone is using web only based connections (i.e. no local network servers), that 800 Mb (100 MB) is still greater than the 500 Mb (62.5 MB) that they currently have for internet access. So paying for more would be a complete waste.
Reasons for buying the Pro in my mind are 1) more densely populated areas, but not so dense as to need AC-HD and/or 2) onside servers offering 1 Gb+ connections that it's reasonable for a single wireless device to use that much speed
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@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@tim_g said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
Not sure if you will need it but I think the Unifi AP AC-HD is the newest version. Slightly more expensive but has ~double the bandwidth available per AP then the AC-Pro does.
Good point - I was actually going to mention the possibility of going the other way - to the Unifi AC Lite. It's less overall bandwidth at the AP (800 Mb vs 1.2 Gb) but still above your internet connection.
The AC-HDs are good for places that have high density of devices, say a lunch room.
Keep in mind that 800 Mb is 100 MB. So, divide that by the amount of wireless devices connected to it. It's not so great anymore and is why you need to have enough to split the connected devices proportionately.
If everyone is using web only based connections (i.e. no local network servers), that 800 Mb (100 MB) is still greater than the 500 Mb (62.5 MB) that they currently have for internet access. So paying for more would be a complete waste.
Reasons for buying the Pro in my mind are 1) more densely populated areas, but not so dense as to need AC-HD and/or 2) onside servers offering 1 Gb+ connections that it's reasonable for a single wireless device to use that much speed
Yeah that's true... i seen he said "campus" so it's probably just everyone's school laptops and cell phones. No need for LAN stuff except DHCP and whatever. School resources are probably few.
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You could also snag a Pro and an AC-HD for demoing and see how well they work in the concrete & rebar dorms.
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@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
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@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
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@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
