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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @RojoLoco
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      @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

      @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

      yep, budget blown and no speakers in site.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @RojoLoco
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        @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

        @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

        Not to mention what the power drain might be from all of that. Granted it could be very close to what I have today for power use.. I'm not entirely sure.

        But 4 powersupplies vs one, I expect some inefficiencies to make 4 require more more even if all other things are equal - but I do leave the possibility that these are so much more efficient vs my Pioneer to make it negligible.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @Dashrender
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          @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

          Edit: nevermind, I didn't see the post about the Pioneer that you already have. Use that.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @RojoLoco
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            @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

            @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

            Edit: nevermind, I didn't see the post about the Pioneer that you already have. Use that.

            LOL - I have been for over a year. It replaced a similar one I bought 10 years ago.

            Frankly I was expecting a bit more conversation on what people are using - perhaps my question was to specific to spark that conversation.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @RojoLoco
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              @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

              @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

              So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

              Also, what is the life expectancy from either the processor or the amp?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                Also, what is the life expectancy from either the processor or the amp?

                Amps nearly last forever.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                  @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                  @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                  @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                  So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                  Also, what is the life expectancy from either the processor or the amp?

                  Amps nearly last forever.

                  Well, at least there is that.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                    @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                    @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                    @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                    So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                    Also, what is the life expectancy from either the processor or the amp?

                    Amps nearly last forever.

                    What if any kind of power filtering does anyone use?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                      @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                      @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                      So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                      Way better quality, and the ability to upgrade the processor (or the amp) without replacing the other. Receivers are the darling of the vendors because new technology means replacing everything, even the radio tuner. But in reality, amps, tuners, pre-amps, attenuators, displays, connectors and most other pieces are good for decades. Only the technology in the digital processor ages, so they take one minor part and make you keep re-buying all the expensive, important parts to replace that one.

                      My 20 year old Marantz are still better than most anything anyone I know owns, and weren't all that expensive even then.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                        @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                        @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                        @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                        So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                        Way better quality, and the ability to upgrade the processor (or the amp) without replacing the other. Receivers are the darling of the vendors because new technology means replacing everything, even the radio tuner. But in reality, amps, tuners, pre-amps, attenuators, displays, connectors and most other pieces are good for decades. Only the technology in the digital processor ages, so they take one minor part and make you keep re-buying all the expensive, important parts to replace that one.

                        My 20 year old Marantz are still better than most anything anyone I know owns, and weren't all that expensive even then.

                        OK, definitely some value there, but when my receiver was the same cost as just the processor in this case, I'm not sure it's worth it to someone in my position.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @Dashrender
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                          @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                          @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                          @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

                          Not to mention what the power drain might be from all of that. Granted it could be very close to what I have today for power use.. I'm not entirely sure.

                          But 4 powersupplies vs one, I expect some inefficiencies to make 4 require more more even if all other things are equal - but I do leave the possibility that these are so much more efficient vs my Pioneer to make it negligible.

                          no no, i missed surround sound requirements, my fault. no reason to have that many amps. just go up until you find the amp that covers your needs. i thought you already had speakers too

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                            @jmoore said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                            @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                            @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                            @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

                            Not to mention what the power drain might be from all of that. Granted it could be very close to what I have today for power use.. I'm not entirely sure.

                            But 4 powersupplies vs one, I expect some inefficiencies to make 4 require more more even if all other things are equal - but I do leave the possibility that these are so much more efficient vs my Pioneer to make it negligible.

                            no no, i missed surround sound requirements, my fault. no reason to have that many amps. just go up until you find the amp that covers your needs. i thought you already had speakers too

                            I have five monoblocks in case I use them for surround sound 🙂

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Simple surround sound improvement tip... if you don't need it due to crappy seating, simply remove the center speaker for improved sound quality. The extra center channel is the biggest source of audio quality loss in those setups.

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                              • jmooreJ
                                jmoore @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                                So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                                Also, what is the life expectancy from either the processor or the amp?

                                the benefit will be better sound and longer lasting equipment. when you bunch everything up together in a receiver you will get 5-10 years from them on average because of all the heat. with separate components you will get double and longer. I have a friend who has Mcintosh and those must be approaching 30-40 years by now and still work great. receivers just don't last that long because of the heat build up

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                  @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                  @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                  @dashrender They have a 5 channel amp that's 499. That would knock out the amp side, but I think your needs would be easily met by a simple, all-in-one AV receiver.

                                  So is there any real benefit to using a $600 processor and a $500 amp at this level compared to my $600 receiver?

                                  Also, what is the life expectancy from either the processor or the amp?

                                  Amps nearly last forever.

                                  What if any kind of power filtering does anyone use?

                                  i use Furman for power filtering. can't remember the model right now. had it about 10 years now

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                                  • jmooreJ
                                    jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                    @jmoore said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                    @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                    @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                    @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

                                    Not to mention what the power drain might be from all of that. Granted it could be very close to what I have today for power use.. I'm not entirely sure.

                                    But 4 powersupplies vs one, I expect some inefficiencies to make 4 require more more even if all other things are equal - but I do leave the possibility that these are so much more efficient vs my Pioneer to make it negligible.

                                    no no, i missed surround sound requirements, my fault. no reason to have that many amps. just go up until you find the amp that covers your needs. i thought you already had speakers too

                                    I have five monoblocks in case I use them for surround sound 🙂

                                    that certainly works and would sound great

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                      @jmoore said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                      @jmoore said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                      @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                      @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                      @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

                                      Not to mention what the power drain might be from all of that. Granted it could be very close to what I have today for power use.. I'm not entirely sure.

                                      But 4 powersupplies vs one, I expect some inefficiencies to make 4 require more more even if all other things are equal - but I do leave the possibility that these are so much more efficient vs my Pioneer to make it negligible.

                                      no no, i missed surround sound requirements, my fault. no reason to have that many amps. just go up until you find the amp that covers your needs. i thought you already had speakers too

                                      I have five monoblocks in case I use them for surround sound 🙂

                                      that certainly works and would sound great

                                      It does a good job. Used to have a full B&W system too, back before they went consumer.

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore
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                                        I don't have expensive equipment but for speakers i use phasetech and boston accoustics. Phasetech twoers were $2500. Boston surrounds are just their taller bookshelves and don't remember price. Sub is an 18" phasetech, don't remember price. I can literally hear it pound down the street and pictures do come off the walls. I use marantz for pre-amp around $800 i think and qsc for my power amp around $600 if i remember. I use Furman power filter which was $300-400 range i think.

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                                        • jmooreJ
                                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                          @jmoore said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                          @jmoore said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                          @dashrender said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                          @rojoloco said in What do you like for a non expensive audio setup for surround sound TV/movies?:

                                          @jmoore but he would need 3 of those amps to have surround sound, assuming a powered sub.

                                          Not to mention what the power drain might be from all of that. Granted it could be very close to what I have today for power use.. I'm not entirely sure.

                                          But 4 powersupplies vs one, I expect some inefficiencies to make 4 require more more even if all other things are equal - but I do leave the possibility that these are so much more efficient vs my Pioneer to make it negligible.

                                          no no, i missed surround sound requirements, my fault. no reason to have that many amps. just go up until you find the amp that covers your needs. i thought you already had speakers too

                                          I have five monoblocks in case I use them for surround sound 🙂

                                          that certainly works and would sound great

                                          It does a good job. Used to have a full B&W system too, back before they went consumer.

                                          b&w was good stuff too

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore
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                                            Someday I want a Rotel system, that stuff is unbelievable. It changes people who don't care about music to people who can't live without it

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