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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1
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      I got an email this week about the Sophos renewal, which is only $300.00 more per year in maintenance than replacing it with Ubiquiti gear with no maintenance cost, and was renewed the month before I came on staff.

      Oh the joys of IT.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        Are there features being used on the Sophos that Ubnt doesn't have?

        For example, two reasons I would chose SonicWall in some cases would be for the great gateway antivirus and SSL-DPI.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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          @tim_g said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

          Are there features being used on the Sophos that Ubnt doesn't have?

          For example, two reasons I would chose SonicWall in some cases would be for the great gateway antivirus and SSL-DPI.

          Are they in use, yes. Are they needed, no. Thus the frustration.

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            StorageNinja Vendor @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

            I got an email this week about the Sophos renewal, which is only $300.00 more per year in maintenance than replacing it with Ubiquiti gear with no maintenance cost, and was renewed the month before I came on staff.

            Oh the joys of IT.

            The Sophos gear does IDS, load balancing and a ton of other fun things that Uniquity doesn't do....

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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              @storageninja said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

              @travisdh1 said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

              I got an email this week about the Sophos renewal, which is only $300.00 more per year in maintenance than replacing it with Ubiquiti gear with no maintenance cost, and was renewed the month before I came on staff.

              Oh the joys of IT.

              The Sophos gear does IDS, load balancing and a ton of other fun things that Uniquity doesn't do....

              Also hearing support and reliability issues that UBNT doesn't have 😉

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m
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                I run a Sophos SG-210 here (for the past 2.5 years) and am gun shy on updates because I have seen them break more than they fix. I am seriously considering moving to ubnt next year. The interface on the 9.x UTM version is really easy to learn and use. I really only use a few features. Namely, the routing/firewall, gateway AV, proxy and IDS. I tried application control (for throttling Youtube) but it never worked correctly and that was when we only had a 10/10 Mbps connection. Now we have 150/150 so it is less of an issue.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                  @storageninja said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                  I got an email this week about the Sophos renewal, which is only $300.00 more per year in maintenance than replacing it with Ubiquiti gear with no maintenance cost, and was renewed the month before I came on staff.

                  Oh the joys of IT.

                  The Sophos gear does IDS, load balancing and a ton of other fun things that Uniquity doesn't do....

                  Also hearing support and reliability issues that UBNT doesn't have 😉

                  The Sophos AV broke the presentation application they were moving to, just for a little icing on the cake.

                  Ubiquiti does load balancing last I checked. Granted it doesn't do IDS, but that's something easily covered by other open source things.

                  I almost forgot the microserver without a hypervisor installed. Makes me wonder about the state of IT in general 😕

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato
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                    Sorry to hear that man! I don't know which industry are you in but that usually is the determination of what you need.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                      I run a Sophos SG-210 here (for the past 2.5 years) and am gun shy on updates because I have seen them break more than they fix. I am seriously considering moving to ubnt next year. The interface on the 9.x UTM version is really easy to learn and use. I really only use a few features. Namely, the routing/firewall, gateway AV, proxy and IDS. I tried application control (for throttling Youtube) but it never worked correctly and that was when we only had a 10/10 Mbps connection. Now we have 150/150 so it is less of an issue.

                      This is what I keep hearing... slow, expensive, and fragile.

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller - Do the Ubiquiti Edge Routers have the network, host and service definitions approach to ACLs, like SonicWall, Sophos, etc?

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @wrx7m
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                          @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                          @scottalanmiller - Do the Ubiquiti Edge Routers have the network, host and service definitions approach to ACLs, like SonicWall, Sophos, etc?

                          NO, because it is not a IDS/IPS/UTM device.

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                          • wrx7mW
                            wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch - I didn't think that those key features made the difference in terms of user interface and usability.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @wrx7m
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                              @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                              @jaredbusch - I didn't think that those key features made the difference in terms of user interface and usability.

                              Key features? What key features? Those are fairly useless feature IMO.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @wrx7m
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                                @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                @jaredbusch - I didn't think that those key features made the difference in terms of user interface and usability.

                                Sure - but the definitions you listed do make a difference.

                                i.e. Edge OS calls out ports and IPs, that's all.

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                                  @jaredbusch said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                  @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                  @jaredbusch - I didn't think that those key features made the difference in terms of user interface and usability.

                                  Key features? What key features? Those are fairly useless feature IMO.

                                  Only key in that you mentioned them, specifically, in response to my question.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @wrx7m
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                                    @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                    @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                    @jaredbusch - I didn't think that those key features made the difference in terms of user interface and usability.

                                    Key features? What key features? Those are fairly useless feature IMO.

                                    Only key in that you mentioned them, specifically, in response to my question.

                                    You named IDS/IPS/UTM devices and asked if Ubiquiti was feature parity. I said no.

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch Right but my question was related to ACLs, not IDS/IPS.

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                        @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                        @jaredbusch - I didn't think that those key features made the difference in terms of user interface and usability.

                                        Key features? What key features? Those are fairly useless feature IMO.

                                        Those features were popular in older devices right but not really needed in modern ones correct?

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                                          StorageNinja Vendor @wrx7m
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                                          @wrx7m said in Arg! The money spent the month before I stated here.:

                                          @jaredbusch Right but my question was related to ACLs, not IDS/IPS.

                                          Did they have compliance requirements that would drive IDS/IPS? Honestly, I wouldn't deploy an office network without some sort of layer 7 edge inspection. Users are just too dumb...

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @StorageNinja
                                            last edited by wrx7m

                                            @storageninja I don't have compliance requirements and I just asking about the definitions-based ACL because it makes sense and I prefer it over lines of IPs and networks.

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