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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
      last edited by

      I copied this from my other post to get more eyes. I'm really curious as to why it makes a difference on hardware.

      It looks like Server Net Install and installing a desktop spin is the way to go with Fedora 26 for personal use.

      I don't know why, but when I install from a workstation ISO whether it's netinstall or not, I always get weird errors posting on the screen during boot up and shutdown/reboot.

      I'm not sure what the difference is between installing Cinnamon or Gnome from the "Server" net install .iso vs the "Workstation" net install .iso:

      Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso
      Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso

      Everything seems to work fine though.

      I know updates are different. Workstation and Server are on different kernel versions, so I can only assume some other stuff is too. But what else would it be?

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite
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        @tim_g said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

        Workstation and Server are on different kernel versions

        Are they still different after running updates?

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @black3dynamite
          last edited by

          @black3dynamite said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

          @tim_g said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

          Workstation and Server are on different kernel versions

          Are they still different after running updates?

          Yes, they run with different kernel releases fully updated.

          I'm putting on 'Fedora Workstation' via the server version (Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso), LVM + XFS. I started doing it with Btrfs, but decided against it last second.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Obsolesce
            last edited by

            @tim_g said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

            I copied this from my other post to get more eyes. I'm really curious as to why it makes a difference on hardware.

            It looks like Server Net Install and installing a desktop spin is the way to go with Fedora 26 for personal use.

            I don't know why, but when I install from a workstation ISO whether it's netinstall or not, I always get weird errors posting on the screen during boot up and shutdown/reboot.

            Hmm, let me try your idea of Net install + desktop spin & see if those weird bootup messages will go away.

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Obsolesce
              last edited by black3dynamite

              @tim_g said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

              @black3dynamite said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

              @tim_g said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

              Workstation and Server are on different kernel versions

              Are they still different after running updates?

              Yes, they run with different kernel releases fully updated.

              I'm putting on 'Fedora Workstation' via the server version (Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso), LVM + XFS. I started doing it with Btrfs, but decided against it last second.

              The only time I’ve seen two different versions
              was with Fedora Custom Operating System and Minimal.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

                @tim_g said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

                Workstation and Server are on different kernel versions

                Are they still different after running updates?

                They are on the same kernel now. I must have timed it just right when a new one released.

                But now they are both using 4.13.9... Fedora Workstation on both the server and workstation net installs. They both update to 4.13.10 now... weird. Talk about timing.

                Anyways, 15 minutes ago while I was on the "Workstation ISO" I was getting the errors.

                I just finish loading up from the "Server ISO", still on 4.13.9. I hit shutdown, and I got the weird errors still.

                I wasn't getting them yesterday, the only difference is that I'm using XFS instead of ext4. But they are kernel errors... i'll try to get a picture.

                Damn, I just don't have the time to keep reloading to pinpoint the issue. In both cases things run well. I'll just keep the 'server iso' "fedora workstation" spin going. I don't see a difference at this point.

                I don't expect anyone else to waste their time on this, but I will still take a pic to see if anyone has any ideas.

                Perhaps updating from 4.13.9 to 4.13.10 fixes it, but that's wishful thinking.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee
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                  For me, both installs are the same!

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    No more errors during shutdown.

                    All I get now is a bunch of messages that pour down the screen matrix style that says "Kernel not configured for semaphores....", but I think that's just SELINUX, which I can figure out later and is no big deal.

                    Soooo, not sure what fixed it... using the Fedora Workstation spin from the "Server ISO", or upgrading to the latest kernel which seems to have been release just today.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      You mean this?

                      Yeah, I have always gotten this. Just never bothered to troubleshoot it.

                      0_1509735989765_2B03DD8B-D6B3-4AB2-9CF0-A2CD6FD3D020.png

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in Difference between Server and Workstation Fedora NetInstall:

                        You mean this?

                        Yeah, I have always gotten this. Just never bothered to troubleshoot it.

                        0_1509735989765_2B03DD8B-D6B3-4AB2-9CF0-A2CD6FD3D020.png

                        Yeah, that's all I'm getting now. I will worry about that another time, as I'm pretty sure that's just SELinux related and I should be able to fix that easily.

                        But before that, I was getting errors that were too fast to see what they were. But, they are gone now. SO I guess all is well.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
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                          I noticed when installing workstation from the server netinstall, that it uses the default partition scheme of the server compare to the workstation installer.

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