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    • hobbit666H
      hobbit666
      last edited by hobbit666

      Actually I might need to look at this a different way. Maybe remove Access and keep it on the desktops instead of RDS.

      If I have 400 users accessing the server but only 50-60 need any form of Office, what's the cheapest way of doing it?
      Guessing if all 50 need a mailbox then E3 via the Office365 plans
      OR
      50 Volume Licenses if I went down that road and keep 365 mailboxes separate.

      Or do I need to license for the total number accessing the servers even if they don't need office?

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        Jimmy9008 @hobbit666
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        @hobbit666 said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

        Actually I might need to look at this a different way. Maybe remove Access and keep it on the desktops instead of RDS.

        If I have 400 users accessing the server but only 50-60 need any form of Office, what's the cheapest way of doing it?
        Guessing if all 50 need a mailbox then E3 via the Office365 plans
        OR
        50 Volume Licenses if I went down that road and keep 365 mailboxes separate.

        Or do I need to license for the total number accessing the servers even if they don't need office?

        I could be wrong, but, if they don't have a license in 365, opening Word, Excel, Outlook etc wont work. It will open, then ask for activation, and close. For those with a license, it will open, activate, and they can work. So, just buy the E3 plans as needed for those that need it and install to the servers. Those with a license will work, those without wont.

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        • hobbit666H
          hobbit666 @Jimmy9008
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          @jimmy9008 That makes a bit more sense with the Office365 plans.

          But what If I use the Volume License route?

          Need to think why and if we need it on the RDS servers verses just licensing Office on the desktop as all users use a PC/Laptop to access the Citrix servers.

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          • hobbit666H
            hobbit666
            last edited by

            Think i'm getting the hang of this now I've re-read all the articles and the different licensing plans both VL and 365.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @hobbit666
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              @hobbit666 said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

              Need to think why and if we need it on the RDS servers verses just licensing Office on the desktop as all users use a PC/Laptop to access the Citrix servers.

              But do they need/want access to Office inside the RDS sessions?

              As for keeping people from running office that aren't licensed for it, you can set the permissions on the office install folder to only allow those with licenses to have access.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Considering you have two different types of users, those that need Access and those that don't - Assuming you buy two different types of licenses, do you have to split the users to different RDS servers so the allowed only have access to the version they are licensed for?

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                • hobbit666H
                  hobbit666 @Dashrender
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                  @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                  But do they need/want access to Office inside the RDS sessions?

                  That's the point i'm up to now. Do we need office on the servers?
                  Who needs it, why, etc.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @hobbit666
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                    @hobbit666 said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                    @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                    But do they need/want access to Office inside the RDS sessions?

                    That's the point i'm up to now. Do we need office on the servers?
                    Who needs it, why, etc.

                    FYI, O365 local install of Office is allowed on up to 5 devices per user, VL (last time I checked) allowed one desktop and one mobile install per user.

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                    • hobbit666H
                      hobbit666 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                      Considering you have two different types of users, those that need Access and those that don't - Assuming you buy two different types of licenses, do you have to split the users to different RDS servers so the allowed only have access to the version they are licensed for?

                      This is something i'm thinking, only give access to people that need it to a VM that has it installed.

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666 @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                        FYI, O365 local install of Office is allowed on up to 5 devices per user, VL (last time I checked) allowed one desktop and one mobile install per user.

                        But only certain plans allow running on a RDS session.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @hobbit666
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                          @hobbit666 said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                          @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                          FYI, O365 local install of Office is allowed on up to 5 devices per user, VL (last time I checked) allowed one desktop and one mobile install per user.

                          But only certain plans allow running on a RDS session.

                          You mean certain O365 plans? I would assume E3 and E5. I'm not sure if Office 365 Business (the Office only package) or Office 365 Business Premium is usable on RDS, but I'd be surprised if not.

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn
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                            It has to include Office 365 Pro applications to support RDS, I believe.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                              last edited by

                              @brianlittlejohn said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                              It has to include Office 365 Pro applications to support RDS, I believe.

                              As for as I know - all O365 plans that include local install Office are Office Pro.

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                              • brianlittlejohnB
                                brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                @brianlittlejohn said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                It has to include Office 365 Pro applications to support RDS, I believe.

                                As for as I know - all O365 plans that include local install Office are Office Pro.

                                Business Premium is what I use for the majority of my users, It includes local install of the office programs, but their accounts will not activate on RDS. I have to use E3 for my few remote users.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                                  @brianlittlejohn said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                  @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                  It has to include Office 365 Pro applications to support RDS, I believe.

                                  As for as I know - all O365 plans that include local install Office are Office Pro.

                                  Business Premium is what I use for the majority of my users, It includes local install of the office programs, but their accounts will not activate on RDS. I have to use E3 for my few remote users.

                                  Interesting, on the website, the included apps are the same.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender Yep, All the apps are the same, the only difference I can tell is it doesn't include the RDS stuff.

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                                    • hobbit666H
                                      hobbit666 @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                      Interesting, on the website, the included apps are the same.

                                      They include the same apps but some of the rights are different:-
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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @hobbit666
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                                        @hobbit666 said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                        @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                        Interesting, on the website, the included apps are the same.

                                        They include the same apps but some of the rights are different:-
                                        0_1508770047647_2017-10-23 15_44_51-Microsoft Edge.png

                                        RDS isn't virtualization though - at least I don't think it is.

                                        @scottalanmiller ??

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                                          JackCPickup @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                          @hobbit666 said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                          @dashrender said in Office + RDS + Citrix + Licensing = Confused:

                                          Interesting, on the website, the included apps are the same.

                                          They include the same apps but some of the rights are different:-
                                          0_1508770047647_2017-10-23 15_44_51-Microsoft Edge.png

                                          RDS isn't virtualization though - at least I don't think it is.

                                          @scottalanmiller ??

                                          This is how Microsoft describe it in this context, including which plans it's available on:

                                          0_1508772305237_1db45f1b-abf9-45ea-92fb-6a5cf019e748-image.png

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