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    • IRJI
      IRJ @bnrstnr
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      @bnrstnr said in New web site:

      @irj Have you personally used that theme? I've been thinking about buying it for a while now.

      yes. I have used it on a few sites.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        This is the Wordpress 2014 theme. Sadly, it's supposed to look like this for some reason.

        https://twentyfourteendemo.wordpress.com/

        I would never use it.

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          john11smith @marcinozga
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          @marcinozga
          Editing css is not the best practice, because if the theme gets updated all adjustments will be gone and will not work on another theme. I did pages from scratch using only html, php and css code without any themes, templates or pictures. But it is kind of inventing wheel.

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            john11smith @IRJ
            last edited by

            @irj
            Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

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              marcinozga
              last edited by

              @john11smith said in New web site:

              @marcinozga
              Editing css is not the best practice, because if the theme gets updated all adjustments will be gone and will not work on another theme. I did pages from scratch using only html, php and css code without any themes, templates or pictures. But it is kind of inventing wheel.

              What? Since when editing css is not the best practice? You have a lot to learn about web design mate. Any decent theme will allow you to include custom css styles, or should allow you to create sub-theme. If you cannot do that, you're doing things completely wrong. I wish people stopped using Wordpress for serious websites, because they usually end up where you are.

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              • hobbit666H
                hobbit666
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                That template is really bad. time to rethink!

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @john11smith
                  last edited by

                  @john11smith said in New web site:

                  @irj
                  Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                  Open source doesn’t mean free. And $59 is not much for a custom theme.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @marcinozga
                    last edited by stacksofplates

                    @marcinozga said in New web site:

                    @john11smith said in New web site:

                    @marcinozga
                    Editing css is not the best practice, because if the theme gets updated all adjustments will be gone and will not work on another theme. I did pages from scratch using only html, php and css code without any themes, templates or pictures. But it is kind of inventing wheel.

                    What? Since when editing css is not the best practice? You have a lot to learn about web design mate. Any decent theme will allow you to include custom css styles, or should allow you to create sub-theme. If you cannot do that, you're doing things completely wrong. I wish people stopped using Wordpress for serious websites, because they usually end up where you are.

                    Right. Any customization you do should be a sub theme. That way any updates are automatically pulled in from the main theme.

                    For example the Zurb Foundation “theme” for Drupal (what I’ve mostly used) is fairly minimal and just a framework. Then you build sub themes with all of your customizations.

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                      john11smith @marcinozga
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                      @marcinozga
                      What you see it is actually child theme.
                      28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

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                        marcinozga @john11smith
                        last edited by marcinozga

                        @john11smith said in New web site:

                        @marcinozga
                        What you see it is actually child theme.
                        28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                        Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                        Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @marcinozga
                          last edited by

                          @marcinozga said in New web site:

                          @john11smith said in New web site:

                          @marcinozga
                          What you see it is actually child theme.
                          28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                          Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                          Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

                          I love Drupal for this. It’s the most flexible CMF I’ve seen. Here’s a list of F500s that use it. And I know a few cities that use it for their frameworks.

                          http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4351/list-of-fortune-500-companies-using-drupal-for-their-websites

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                            marcinozga @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                            @marcinozga said in New web site:

                            @john11smith said in New web site:

                            @marcinozga
                            What you see it is actually child theme.
                            28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                            Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                            Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

                            I love Drupal for this. It’s the most flexible CMF I’ve seen. Here’s a list of F500s that use it. And I know a few cities that use it for their frameworks.

                            http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4351/list-of-fortune-500-companies-using-drupal-for-their-websites

                            Add huge majority of .gov websites at any level, and majority of universities. And I almost forgot NASA, Tesla or Space-X.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @marcinozga
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                              @marcinozga said in New web site:

                              @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                              @marcinozga said in New web site:

                              @john11smith said in New web site:

                              @marcinozga
                              What you see it is actually child theme.
                              28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                              Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                              Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

                              I love Drupal for this. It’s the most flexible CMF I’ve seen. Here’s a list of F500s that use it. And I know a few cities that use it for their frameworks.

                              http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4351/list-of-fortune-500-companies-using-drupal-for-their-websites

                              Add huge majority of .gov websites at any level, and majority of universities. And I almost forgot NASA, Tesla or Space-X.

                              Ya the Whitehouse site is built with it. It's just an amazing tool.

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                                marcinozga
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                                Here: https://wordpress.org/themes/materialize/

                                Free, clean, professional, responsive theme, that allows you to have custom css styles, and you can edit it through admin interface. You don't even need to create child theme for it.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @john11smith
                                  last edited by

                                  @john11smith said in New web site:

                                  @irj
                                  Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                                  Right, but if you want a professional looking website and you aren't a CSS and HTML expert you don't have much choice..

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @stacksofplates
                                    last edited by IRJ

                                    @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                                    @john11smith said in New web site:

                                    @irj
                                    Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                                    Open source doesn’t mean free. And $59 is not much for a custom theme.

                                    I have found that paying the money for a well thought out and supported them is well worth the upfront cost.

                                    Having trouble adjusting something CSS? Just open a ticket

                                    Having trouble with anything in the theme in general? Just open a ticket.

                                    The support in itself is worth it IMO, but the quality of the theme is much better. When you consider the amount of downloads and how many users they are constantly supporting.

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @john11smith
                                      last edited by

                                      @john11smith said in New web site:

                                      Hi, I have established a new company and about to start looking for customers. Here is my website: https://nioss.co.uk/. Would appreciate a little criticism.

                                      Checkout sites.envato.com I think its $4/month now. Really simple, looks decent, responsive. I made one before when they were beta took about 10 minutes.

                                      Will get you something nice until you can get someone to do a WP site for you like hostadillo...

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @bigbear
                                        last edited by

                                        @bigbear said in New web site:

                                        @john11smith said in New web site:

                                        Hi, I have established a new company and about to start looking for customers. Here is my website: https://nioss.co.uk/. Would appreciate a little criticism.

                                        Checkout sites.envato.com I think its $4/month now. Really simple, looks decent, responsive. I made one before when they were beta took about 10 minutes.

                                        Will get you something nice until you can get someone to do a WP site for you like hostadillo...

                                        Cool. I have never heard of that before, but I do love envato. I would guess that some of their themes are used on theses sites?

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          @irj said in New web site:

                                          @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                                          @john11smith said in New web site:

                                          @irj
                                          Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                                          Open source doesn’t mean free. And $59 is not much for a custom theme.

                                          I have found that paying the money for a well thought out and supported them is well worth the upfront cost.

                                          Having trouble adjusting something CSS? Just open a ticket

                                          Having trouble with anything in the theme in general? Just open a ticket.

                                          The support in itself is worth it IMO, but the quality of the theme is much better. When you consider the amount of downloads and how many users they are constantly supporting.

                                          Ya the one thing to watch out for is (at least on Drupal) some of the themes enable the PHP plugin and a lot of the code is direct PHP in the content. Other than that most of the ones I’ve seen for plug and play are much much better than the free ones.

                                          Building custom themes is time consuming. Not hard just takes a lot of work. You definitely pay more in time than you would buying one of these.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            @irj said in New web site:

                                            @bigbear said in New web site:

                                            @john11smith said in New web site:

                                            Hi, I have established a new company and about to start looking for customers. Here is my website: https://nioss.co.uk/. Would appreciate a little criticism.

                                            Checkout sites.envato.com I think its $4/month now. Really simple, looks decent, responsive. I made one before when they were beta took about 10 minutes.

                                            Will get you something nice until you can get someone to do a WP site for you like hostadillo...

                                            Cool. I have never heard of that before, but I do love envato. I would guess that some of their themes are used on theses sites?

                                            I tried it out in beta and a little since then. They include the themes that they made for the service.

                                            It seems to be getting better every month, is definitely the easiest thing I have ever used for a simple site. I am usually a wordpress guy.

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