Windows 7 licenses
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I would guess that between the OEM and the VL, it's going to easily approach $300 per machine to license. Doesn't take long before new machines would be comparable.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
If the machines only have so much life left in them, new Windows licenses will cost a fortune. It is what it is, almost certainly this should prompt them to buy new machines at this point.
Exactly.
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@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs
For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?
The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.
He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.
Missed that bit about whitebox.
Yup, you are screwed @Mike-Davis. Just buy new machines.
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@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.
He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.
Missed that bit about whitebox.
Yup, you are screwed @Mike-Davis. Just buy new machines.
This seems like the best choice.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs
For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?
The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.
I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.
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@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs
For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?
The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.
I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.
At least with 4-8 computers, audits are fast and easy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs
For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?
The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.
I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.
At least with 4-8 computers, audits are fast and easy.
8 computers and 2 Hyper-V servers. and anything but fast an easy because the guy responding to the SAM paperwork refused to believe that I could use replication with Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 without full double licensing of everything, etc.
Took 2 months of back and forth and sending links to MS documentation.
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@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs
For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?
The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.
I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.
At least with 4-8 computers, audits are fast and easy.
8 computers and 2 Hyper-V servers. and anything but fast an easy because the guy responding to the SAM paperwork refused to believe that I could use replication with Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 without full double licensing of everything, etc.
Took 2 months of back and forth and sending links to MS documentation.
Same issue here.
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Out of a handful of larger clients, I have one that has been getting audited pretty much every 2 years. This last round was great. The client has been buying all their licensing through CDW, so my CDW rep said he would take care of it.
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@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
Took 2 months of back and forth and sending links to MS documentation.
been there. It was like the level 1 guy would only read what you put in the boxes in the Excel spreadsheet.
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@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
Out of a handful of larger clients, I have one that has been getting audited pretty much every 2 years.
What they heck? In all my years - I'm not sure MS has ever looked at my sites...
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@gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:
What they heck? In all my years - I'm not sure MS has ever looked at my sites...
I haven't had them audit any of my non for profit clients...
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@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:
What they heck? In all my years - I'm not sure MS has ever looked at my sites...
I haven't had them audit any of my non for profit clients...
Non-Profits make up 10 of my last 13 years
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@gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:
Non-Profits make up 10 of my last 13 years
That's what I was thinking.
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@jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:
fused to believe that I could use replication with Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 without full double licensing of everything, etc.
You can probably find some OEM Windows 7 licenses out there. that might save you a few $ otherwise, just buy new machines....
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:
@aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:
@mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs
For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?
The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.
I am that shop. I have been audited twice in 4 years.
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The first audit was stressful and we ended up having to purchase some things but it wasn't terrible. The most recent audit was ridiculous and I had to track down invoices for Exchange 2010 and corresponding CALs from January 2011 from Dell. I had the invoice but for some reason, MS couldn't find my agreements in their system so after 3 months, they finally were able to find them. I also had to take 5 pictures EACH of OEM license stickers from 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 Pro, to prove that I was actually using upgrades from OEM. Every question I had was met with a 1-week delayed response. It was unbelievable.
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What passed for proof in the first one wasn't enough in the second. I also had received the intent to audit letter a year after the first and had to tell them that they already had audited me the year prior. MS licensing is the absolute worst. Period.
