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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver awesome. nailed it..
      Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

      But I have not even googled that yet.

      I am supposed to be workign atm...

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      • coliverC
        coliver @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

        @coliver awesome. nailed it..
        Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

        But I have not even googled that yet.

        I am supposed to be workign atm...

        I'm pretty sure this will work but I haven't tested it.

        https://www.spice-space.org/page/MultiHeadVirtManagerWindowsGuests

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

          @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

          @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

          @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

          I see. I did a quick search and found these:

          https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
          https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

          At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
          Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

          Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

          From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

          Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

          I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

          I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Obsolesce
            last edited by

            @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

            I see. I did a quick search and found these:

            https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
            https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

            At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
            Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

            Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

            From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

            Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

            I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

            I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

            Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

              I see. I did a quick search and found these:

              https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
              https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

              At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
              Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

              Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

              From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

              Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

              I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

              I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

              Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

              Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

                Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

                Done. What an improvement! Especially when windowed.

                Adding this bit into my OP.

                Thanks!

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite
                  last edited by

                  I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                  Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee
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                    @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                    I only install this ^^
                    IIRC, both do the same thing.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @black3dynamite
                      last edited by

                      @black3dynamite said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                      Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

                      I did not know that the Spice Guest Tools installed everything the virtio-win.iso installs. If that is so, I can remove that from the procedure.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @tim_g said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        @black3dynamite said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                        Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

                        I did not know that the Spice Guest Tools installed everything the virtio-win.iso installs. If that is so, I can remove that from the procedure.

                        From what I can tell we only need the SPICE agent for Windows or Linux in order to have to the enhanced features. Before I've always installed the virtio drivers that is provided by Fedora and then installed SPICE guest agent.
                        https://i.imgur.com/cRTTgCg.png

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ
                          last edited by

                          Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ
                            last edited by

                            I dont appear to be missing any drivers...

                            0_1531920327362_dfb190be-513b-41eb-afcc-c9c802106d3c-image.png

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                              Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                              I have only ever installed the spice tools for this. I have never had a problem on my desktop or laptop when doing it this way.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                I believe they are included in Spice Tools... Haven't touched KVM in awhile to test though.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite @IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                  Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                  Spice Guest Tools includes the latest stable version of the virtio drivers which I believe is 0.1.141

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                    Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                    Spice Tools seems to work better.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @black3dynamite
                                      last edited by

                                      @black3dynamite said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                      Spice Guest Tools includes the latest stable version of the virtio drivers which I believe is 0.1.141

                                      Yes. I figured that out after posting.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @obsolesce said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                        Spice Tools seems to work better.

                                        Maybe update the OP to say it is best to install Spice Tools, but if you need to manually install virtio drivers, here are the steps....

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @IRJ
                                          last edited by Obsolesce

                                          @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                          @obsolesce said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                          @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                          Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                          Spice Tools seems to work better.

                                          Maybe update the OP to say it is best to install Spice Tools, but if you need to manually install virtio drivers, here are the steps....

                                          Oh just realized this was my thread. Will do.

                                          Edit: Yeah this is a little outdated. I'll fix it up. It's hard to keep all of my posts up to date... rather impossible.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @obsolesce said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 28 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            @obsolesce said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                            Spice Tools seems to work better.

                                            Maybe update the OP to say it is best to install Spice Tools, but if you need to manually install virtio drivers, here are the steps....

                                            Oh just realized this was my thread. Will do.

                                            Edit: Yeah this is a little outdated. I'll fix it up. It's hard to keep all of my posts up to date... rather impossible.

                                            If it is a significant change, i liek to make a new one referring back to the original.

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