Cell phones survey
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
Ohhh Kay - you're talking about the store.. OK I have to give you that one. MS didn't monitor it at all.. and it is down right horrible! But that doesn't make the OS a malware platform.
That's an integral part of the experience. They didn't provide an alternative. So the store dictates the quality of the overall device.
The entire store was designed around delivering fake products (malware) to me. It was a platform designed for malware, and nothing BUT malware.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
That's the same thing as not liking Fords because people lock their children in them...
What kind of apps are you choosing to install that have malware?
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I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
That's the same thing as not liking Fords because people lock their children in them...
What kind of apps are you choosing to install that have malware?
Any. It was ALL malware. It wasn't that they contained malware, they WERE malware. The store itself was essentially malware. Which, being part of the phone, made the phone malware. From what I could tell, the sole purpose of the phone was to host the store and the store's only function was to present fake apps as looking like real ones from actual phone platforms. There were no apps that you would want to use, as far as I could ever tell, but the store was loaded with ones with the exact name of the app, names of the vendor and icons so that, since MS controlled the store, there was no validation for phone users to determine if the app they wanted existed or if there were just twenty malware items called that.
It's nothing like "some people lock kids in the car", I could find no safe, legitimate use for the phone.
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@momurda said in Cell phones survey:
I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
Exactly. Any app you wanted was in there a dozen times or more. Chances are, none of them were actually the app. But there was no way to know.
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i also have to consider that most of my close friends and family are in the iOS ecosystem. we facetime, and use imessage all the time. my wife just reminded me of that this evening.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@momurda said in Cell phones survey:
I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
Exactly. Any app you wanted was in there a dozen times or more. Chances are, none of them were actually the app. But there was no way to know.
I've not seen this issue, and can't find anything at all similar to it. I've been using Win10 Mobile on my Lumia 950xl since it's come out. My experience was nothing but good, in every aspect. I like the way everything is on it much more than Android and iOS, and I came from being an Android fanboy thinking Win10 Mobile had no chance of comparing.
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
You'll have to show me some real examples that I can search for, on my phone, right now, so that what you are saying makes sense.
Otherwise, you're just making me think your being irrational about something that doesn't exist.
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I am rocking the Galaxy S8+. Love it.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@momurda said in Cell phones survey:
I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
Exactly. Any app you wanted was in there a dozen times or more. Chances are, none of them were actually the app. But there was no way to know.
I've not seen this issue, and can't find anything at all similar to it. I've been using Win10 Mobile on my Lumia 950xl since it's come out. My experience was nothing but good, in every aspect. I like the way everything is on it much more than Android and iOS, and I came from being an Android fanboy thinking Win10 Mobile had no chance of comparing.
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
You'll have to show me some real examples that I can search for, on my phone, right now, so that what you are saying makes sense.
Otherwise, you're just making me think your being irrational about something that doesn't exist.
Google Chrome was an obvious one. Store came up with screen after screen of options that were all from "Google" and all were "Chrome". This was universally known as an issue at least when I had the phone, not sure how you missed it. It's been the constant complaint of the Windows Store ecosystem and continues on the desktop - their weird control issues mean that you can't identify the vendor. It's just "stuff their search turns up" and if it isn't the real deal, no way to know.
Maybe you are loaded with malware and don't know it. If you are using the Windows phone, it seems likely that you have fake copies of software or things you don't realize aren't the apps that people call by those names.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
Well, do you see apps? There you go. The store was easily over 99% malware when I had it. Any search for anything would turn up loads of hits, not a single one was normally the "real" app, just fakes (fakes are malware by definition.) On the off chance that the actual app existed, it was rarely the top or obvious hit.
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Here is an example of the issue years after I smartly dumped the platform...
What they show with Avast, multiple apps with the name and at best one, if any, from the actual vendor, is what every app was like. Every app you could name was represented in the store, but essentially none of them were real. The platform had almost no actual apps, but the store was chock full of fake ones with the same names. The platform as famous for it and everyone was pretty convinced that to make it look like the platform had developers, Microsoft promoted this happening so that they could say that they had apps too - the alternative was an empty app store with nothing to show.
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Never seen anything like it in any app store. Part of running an app store is being responsible to vet the apps to at least be what and by whom it says that they are. Microsoft put their own reputation behind the fake apps, hence the problem. Anyone can make a mistake and let something through, this was in no way that case.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
That Windows undefined OS. Too legit. I actually have that one installed on my machine right now.
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I'm definitely not seeing any of that on Win10 Mobile, and I can clearly see who apps are made by. One is from google and one is not. It's clear.
I also do not see that Avast issue. When was this? Before Win10 Mobile was released?
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@fuznutz04 said in Cell phones survey:
i also have to consider that most of my close friends and family are in the iOS ecosystem. we facetime, and use imessage all the time. my wife just reminded me of that this evening.
You can do that through Signal, which is cross-platform and on the desktop too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
Well, do you see apps? There you go. The store was easily over 99% malware when I had it. Any search for anything would turn up loads of hits, not a single one was normally the "real" app, just fakes (fakes are malware by definition.) On the off chance that the actual app existed, it was rarely the top or obvious hit.
I have Duolingo installed. Is that malware? You are definitely being irrational now...
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@tim_g how do you KNOW that that is DuoLingo? When I had a Windows Phone, all kinds of apps that I wanted to use were listed and let me install them. But they weren't really the apps.
You called me irrational before I showed you all the references to it. I think we are past that point. Maybe, MAYBE, Microsoft learned the error of their ways and stopped promoting malware on their platform. Or mabye they didn't. I learned my lesson and won't trust their phone again. It wasn't a mistake, it went on as long as I owned the phone, it was common knowledge and impacted every user at the time, it was widely discussed as a massive shortcoming of the platform and it obviously made the trades and they even discussed the marketing rationale as to why MS was willing to sell out their customers in that way.
Whether MS has fixed that now... that's up to you to take your chances with.
