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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @PenguinWrangler
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      @penguinwrangler said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @jaredbusch

      @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @quixoticjeremy said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @coliver said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @coliver said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @emad-r said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @emad-r said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      in that room saw it exactly a

      Let her report it then, even in the middle east where i live if this happens the women will report it.

      but what is weird here abit, that only recently got revoked is that if you raped a woman and married her you will not be punished, cause you corrected your mistake by marrying her.

      What woman would willingly marry the man who raped them? Does the woman even have a choice?

      I get the impression that you haven't read the thread. I've provided multiple reasons for why it wouldn't be good.

      Fire alarms going off i have to leave the building.

      Well, its cause of shame factor and family factor it wont be really a choice for her. God Bless this country.

      But it got revoked this ruling in Lebanon and Jordan a month ago. But we still have load of shitty rules.

      That's serious injustice to shame a woman who was raped

      It's pretty common in the US as well.

      It's hard to wrap my head around the concept in any country

      Not sure why you got a downvote. Victim blaming makes absolutely no sense.

      Yeah I'm pretty surprised too

      I'm going to bet someone misclicked and didn't realize it.

      Eh, there has been some very strange comments in this thread. I kind of doubt it

      No, the strange part is your insistence that your point of view has to be the right one.

      Your morals are most certainly not my morals. Let alone someone of a completely different nationality, ethnic background, and/or religion.

      There are societal norms, morals, and laws, that we all live under. You might not agree with them but they are there.

      The only one that matters in that statement is laws. I don't break laws without being aware of the penalty I will face for doing so <cough>speed limits</cough>.

      @penguinwrangler said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      Taking your statement to the extreme someone could say, "Well they don't think that is wrong. That is just their moral system."

      This is 100% correct.

      @penguinwrangler said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

      I will also say that there are morals that are clearly better than others.

      Define better?

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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        @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

        Define better?

        Ones that he agrees with vs. others that he does not. <--what you are getting at

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

          @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

          Define better?

          Ones that he agrees with vs. others that he does not. <--what you are getting at

          Yes.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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            @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

            @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

            @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

            Define better?

            Ones that he agrees with vs. others that he does not. <--what you are getting at

            Yes.

            You're the same though. All humans are. We live the way we think is correct.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

              @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

              @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

              @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

              Define better?

              Ones that he agrees with vs. others that he does not. <--what you are getting at

              Yes.

              You're the same though. All humans are. We live the way we think is correct.

              Again with the putting words in my mouth. I never said any I wasn't.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                last edited by wirestyle22

                @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

                @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

                @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

                @wirestyle22 said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

                @jaredbusch said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

                Define better?

                Ones that he agrees with vs. others that he does not. <--what you are getting at

                Yes.

                You're the same though. All humans are. We live the way we think is correct.

                Again with the putting words in my mouth. I never said any I wasn't.

                I'm making a statement. How is that putting words in your mouth? I say something and you either disagree or agree.

                You agree.

                Great.

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                • Emad RE
                  Emad R @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Witnessing Sexual Harassment:

                  Correct, it does not. Your observation is irrelevant to that decision.
                  If she felt like a victim, she's have reported it. Did she? If not, she was placating you. Maybe she felt you were harassing her and wanted to make you happy. We don't know. What we know is... only she can decide if she might be a victim.
                  Being uncomfortable around someone is not being a victim. My wife is uncomfortable going into restaurants because of all the people. She is not a victim. Even if they come up and talk to her, which also makes her visibly uncomfortable.
                  You are using lots of descriptions that make it sound one way, but when you actually read what you are saying, we can't know if anything bad happened. Did he make an advance? Doesn't sound like it. Did he do anything that isn't culturally normal in a lot of cultures? Doesn't sound like it. Sexual harassment is a specific thing, and nothing you describe is enough to know if that happened and her feeling like it happened isn't enough, either.

                  +100 on this, also +1 for making me learn a new word (placating)

                  Dude @wirestyle22 you want to see "Victims" come to MSFF Mowasah Hosptial In Marka Amman Jordan (Facial Reconstruction unit), I will show you victims, you wont belive what will you see, mostly children, and this is after one or two operations already done, and I dont understand how they can be happy or smile. they didnt choose to have their half face wiped, and dont get me started on tissue expander ball that they put in their faces and how they impant shit in different places in there faces and body so it can grow to remove them later and place it back...

                  Victim you say, she has rights and rules and she can lawsuit... pfff so what if she gets fired. better to have pride and use her rights.. what rights do those kids have, what future do they have left. If you live in good country and you have propper rights already established and applies to you and your not using them= your not victim, your just naive.

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