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      marcinozga
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      I decided to give Sodium a shot, but so far it's a big disappointment. Starting with windows installer, it doesn't check if Chocolatey is installed, and if I'm correct, it installs it again. It should check if Chocolatey exists, and if not, only then install it. And for whatever reason service restart ended up with "'Restart-Service' is not recognized as an internal or external command," but when I run it manually it worked. Perhaps msi installer would be a better idea here.

      I got salt-minion service running, but my machine list is empty. I would expect minion to check in with master almost instantly. Over half an hour and list is still blank. Minion is installed on my Win 10 desktop.

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      • QuixoticJeremyQ
        QuixoticJeremy @marcinozga
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        @marcinozga said in Sodium: Machine list blank:

        I decided to give Sodium a shot, but so far it's a big disappointment. Starting with windows installer, it doesn't check if Chocolatey is installed, and if I'm correct, it installs it again. It should check if Chocolatey exists, and if not, only then install it. And for whatever reason service restart ended up with "'Restart-Service' is not recognized as an internal or external command," but when I run it manually it worked. Perhaps msi installer would be a better idea here.

        I got salt-minion service running, but my machine list is empty. I would expect minion to check in with master almost instantly. Over half an hour and list is still blank. Minion is installed on my Win 10 desktop.

        Sorry that you are having such a rough time. As has been stated MANY times on this forums this is in early alpha. This is not CLOSE to a full release. That being said we have been finding quite a bit of success on all fronts here. Especially on the win 10 front.

        Now I'm happy to help but I need more information. If you send me a message I'll be more than glad to help.

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        • RomoR
          Romo
          last edited by

          Just as a reminder, this is ALPHA software currently under heavy development, your post reads like if Sodium was already released to production.

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          • QuixoticJeremyQ
            QuixoticJeremy
            last edited by

            If you look now you'll see your machine in your list.

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              marcinozga
              last edited by

              Yes, it just showed up.

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              • QuixoticJeremyQ
                QuixoticJeremy @marcinozga
                last edited by

                @marcinozga said in Sodium: Machine list blank:

                Yes, it just showed up.

                If you have further issues please let me know, I'll always do my best to get back to you as quick as I can. We may be early on in development (which we fully acknowledge) but we really are trying to do our best for the community.

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                  marcinozga @QuixoticJeremy
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                  @quixoticjeremy will do, thanks.

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                  • QuixoticJustinQ
                    QuixoticJustin
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                    I think we've just not looked at the install - is it really installing twice or just updating if already installed? Should be simple enough to make a test for choco being already available.

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                    • QuixoticJeremyQ
                      QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin
                      last edited by QuixoticJeremy

                      @quixoticjustin said in Sodium: Machine list blank:

                      I think we've just not looked at the install - is it really installing twice or just updating if already installed? Should be simple enough to make a test for choco being already available.

                      One of 3 things happens:
                      a. choco is already installed, it fails doesn't do anything and moves on to the next step
                      b. choco is not up to date: it updates
                      c. choco is not installed: it installs.

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                      • QuixoticJustinQ
                        QuixoticJustin @marcinozga
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                        @marcinozga said in Sodium: Machine list blank:

                        Perhaps msi installer would be a better idea here.

                        The issue with an MSI installer is managing the updates. In this case, we are leveraging the existing Salt and Chocolatey frameworks for agent management and agent updates. If we move to MSI it would simplify the initial install, but make updates much more complicated. And it would greatly expand the back end infrastructure to package updates.

                        At some point we anticipate needing an MSI, but it will bring a lot of problems with it.

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                        • QuixoticJeremyQ
                          QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJeremy
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                            marcinozga
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                            This is what happens:

                            Getting latest version of the Chocolatey package for download.
                            Getting Chocolatey from https://chocolatey.org/api/v2/package/chocolatey/0.10.7.
                            Extracting %LOCALAPPDATA%\Temp\chocolatey\chocInstall\chocolatey.zip to %LOCALAPPDATA%\chocolatey\chocInstall...
                            Installing chocolatey on this machine
                            Creating ChocolateyInstall as an environment variable (targeting 'Machine')
                              Setting ChocolateyInstall to 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey'
                            WARNING: It's very likely you will need to close and reopen your shell
                              before you can use choco.
                            Restricting write permissions to Administrators
                            We are setting up the Chocolatey package repository.
                            The packages themselves go to 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\lib'
                              (i.e. C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\lib\yourPackageName).
                            A shim file for the command line goes to 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\bin'
                              and points to an executable in 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\lib\yourPackageName'.
                            
                            Creating Chocolatey folders if they do not already exist.
                            
                            WARNING: You can safely ignore errors related to missing log files when
                              upgrading from a version of Chocolatey less than 0.9.9.
                              'Batch file could not be found' is also safe to ignore.
                              'The system cannot find the file specified' - also safe.
                            WARNING: Not setting tab completion: Profile file does not exist at '\\path-to-my-documents\WindowsPowerShell\Microsoft.PowerShell_profile.ps1'.
                            Chocolatey (choco.exe) is now ready.
                            You can call choco from anywhere, command line or powershell by typing choco.
                            Run choco /? for a list of functions.
                            You may need to shut down and restart powershell and/or consoles
                             first prior to using choco.
                            Ensuring chocolatey commands are on the path
                            Ensuring chocolatey.nupkg is in the lib folder
                            
                            D:\download>choco install saltminion -y
                            Chocolatey v0.10.7
                            Installing the following packages:
                            saltminion
                            By installing you accept licenses for the packages.
                            saltminion v2017.7.1 already installed.
                             Use --force to reinstall, specify a version to install, or try upgrade.
                            
                            Chocolatey installed 0/1 packages.
                             See the log for details (C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\logs\chocolatey.log).
                            
                            Warnings:
                             - saltminion - saltminion v2017.7.1 already installed.
                             Use --force to reinstall, specify a version to install, or try upgrade.
                            
                            D:\download>icacls "c:\salt\bin\Lib\site-packages\salt\" /grant "Authenticated Users":(OI)(CI)R
                            Invalid parameter "Users:(OI)(CI)R   "
                            
                            D:\download>echo random-string-here  1>>c:\salt\bin\lib\site-packages\salt\companyName.txt
                            
                            D:\download>echo master: na1.waxquixotic.com   1>>c:\salt\conf\minion.d\mast.conf
                            
                            D:\download>Restart-Service salt-minion
                            'Restart-Service' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
                            operable program or batch file.
                            

                            This looks like it installed Chocolatey on top of existing one. I manage Chocolatey installs with Ansible, so latest version should be installed already.

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                            • QuixoticJeremyQ
                              QuixoticJeremy @marcinozga
                              last edited by QuixoticJeremy

                              @marcinozga said in Sodium: Machine list blank:

                              This is what happens:

                              Getting latest version of the Chocolatey package for download.
                              Getting Chocolatey from https://chocolatey.org/api/v2/package/chocolatey/0.10.7.
                              Extracting %LOCALAPPDATA%\Temp\chocolatey\chocInstall\chocolatey.zip to %LOCALAPPDATA%\chocolatey\chocInstall...
                              Installing chocolatey on this machine
                              Creating ChocolateyInstall as an environment variable (targeting 'Machine')
                                Setting ChocolateyInstall to 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey'
                              WARNING: It's very likely you will need to close and reopen your shell
                                before you can use choco.
                              Restricting write permissions to Administrators
                              We are setting up the Chocolatey package repository.
                              The packages themselves go to 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\lib'
                                (i.e. C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\lib\yourPackageName).
                              A shim file for the command line goes to 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\bin'
                                and points to an executable in 'C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\lib\yourPackageName'.
                              
                              Creating Chocolatey folders if they do not already exist.
                              
                              WARNING: You can safely ignore errors related to missing log files when
                                upgrading from a version of Chocolatey less than 0.9.9.
                                'Batch file could not be found' is also safe to ignore.
                                'The system cannot find the file specified' - also safe.
                              WARNING: Not setting tab completion: Profile file does not exist at '\\path-to-my-documents\WindowsPowerShell\Microsoft.PowerShell_profile.ps1'.
                              Chocolatey (choco.exe) is now ready.
                              You can call choco from anywhere, command line or powershell by typing choco.
                              Run choco /? for a list of functions.
                              You may need to shut down and restart powershell and/or consoles
                               first prior to using choco.
                              Ensuring chocolatey commands are on the path
                              Ensuring chocolatey.nupkg is in the lib folder
                              
                              D:\download>choco install saltminion -y
                              Chocolatey v0.10.7
                              Installing the following packages:
                              saltminion
                              By installing you accept licenses for the packages.
                              saltminion v2017.7.1 already installed.
                               Use --force to reinstall, specify a version to install, or try upgrade.
                              
                              Chocolatey installed 0/1 packages.
                               See the log for details (C:\ProgramData\chocolatey\logs\chocolatey.log).
                              
                              Warnings:
                               - saltminion - saltminion v2017.7.1 already installed.
                               Use --force to reinstall, specify a version to install, or try upgrade.
                              
                              D:\download>icacls "c:\salt\bin\Lib\site-packages\salt\" /grant "Authenticated Users":(OI)(CI)R
                              Invalid parameter "Users:(OI)(CI)R   "
                              
                              D:\download>echo random-string-here  1>>c:\salt\bin\lib\site-packages\salt\companyName.txt
                              
                              D:\download>echo master: na1.waxquixotic.com   1>>c:\salt\conf\minion.d\mast.conf
                              
                              D:\download>Restart-Service salt-minion
                              'Restart-Service' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
                              operable program or batch file.
                              

                              This looks like it installed Chocolatey on top of existing one. I manage Chocolatey installs with Ansible, so latest version should be installed already.

                              Interesting. Definitely different what I've seen in testing. I'll be sure to take a look at this moving forward. I hadn't coded detection because it had been simply failing out and moving to the next step when it was present in my tests. I'll take a look at this in the very near future.

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                              • QuixoticJeremyQ
                                QuixoticJeremy
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                                @QuixoticJustin can you add this to my list?

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                                  marcinozga
                                  last edited by marcinozga

                                  I just realized installing it with Ansible is really elegant solution here:

                                  ---
                                  - hosts: windows
                                    tasks:
                                    - name: Install sodium agent
                                      win_chocolatey:
                                        name: saltminion
                                        state: latest
                                    - name: Copy companyName.txt
                                      template:
                                        src: companyName.txt.j2
                                        dst: c:\salt\bin\lib\site-packages\salt\companyName.txt
                                    - name: Copy config file
                                      template: 
                                        src: mast.conf.j2
                                        dest: c:\salt\conf\minion.d\mast.conf
                                    - name: Set permissions
                                      win_acl:
                                        path: c:\salt\bin\Lib\site-packages\salt\
                                        user: "Authenticated Users"
                                        rights: Read
                                        type: allow
                                        state: present
                                      notify:
                                        - restart salt
                                    handlers:
                                      - name: restart salt
                                        win_service:
                                          name: salt-minion
                                          state: restarted
                                  

                                  And that would do it, one would need to create 2 files, companyName.txt.j2 and mast.conf.j2 with either variables, or just directly with proper values. If someone is already using Ansible, they should easily be able to do that.

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