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    • coliverC
      coliver @ubiquiti-user
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      @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

      @coliver said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

      @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

      Would the ER-Lite really be sufficient?

      It doesn't have any way to mount it to a rack either, not that that's a big deal. But it would be nice for easy placement.

      Yep, from the Meraki spec sheet listed vs the ER-L it would be more then adequate to replace an MX100.

      Can you share the spec sheet, I'll find the Ubiquiti one.

      Thx

      https://meraki.cisco.com/lib/pdf/meraki_datasheet_mx.pdf

      On page 5.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @ubiquiti-user
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        @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

        Would the ER-Lite really be sufficient?

        It doesn't have any way to mount it to a rack either, not that that's a big deal. But it would be nice for easy placement.

        There are rack mount kits.
        I use this one: http://www.ispsupplies.com/KAM-Fab-UB-RM1

        You can tell from the beveled design, that is was made for the original ToughSwitch and original ERL. But the bevel is just on the plate. not behind where it would impact the mount.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          @ubiquiti-user while I highly suspect the ERL could handle the workload, I would get the ER8 for a site with 100+ users.

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            ubiquiti-user @JaredBusch
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            @jaredbusch said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

            @ubiquiti-user while I highly suspect the ERL could handle the workload, I would get the ER8 for a site with 100+ users.

            Not the infinity to have a full 10gbe backbone (as well as to avoid having to daisy chain the switches)?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @ubiquiti-user
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              @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

              @jaredbusch said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

              @ubiquiti-user while I highly suspect the ERL could handle the workload, I would get the ER8 for a site with 100+ users.

              Not the infinity to have a full 10gbe backbone (as well as to avoid having to daisy chain the switches)?

              You are buying a router, you really only need 1 LAN port. I recommend the ER8 only because I see the ERL and ERPoE in heavy use scenarios with 50-100 users pushing 50% CPU or more. But these are burst environments, not all day use.

              The ER8 would give you more processing power. If you want SFP, the ERPro is the ER8 + SFP.

              If you think you need 10GB, then sure, the Infinity is a nice looking unit, but I do not believe it is out yet.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @ubiquiti-user
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                @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                (as well as to avoid having to daisy chain the switches)

                You always have to have one switch be the one connected to the router. That is why it is a router and not a switch.

                After that, you trunk your switches.

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                  ubiquiti-user @JaredBusch
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                  @jaredbusch hrm...

                  I was thinking 10bge would be nice for future proofing (as much as I know you shouldn't build for what you may or may not need).

                  The backbone and servers we're looking at could use the 10gbe . .

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @ubiquiti-user
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                    @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                    @jaredbusch hrm...

                    I was thinking 10bge would be nice for future proofing (as much as I know you shouldn't build for what you may or may not need).

                    The backbone and servers we're looking at could use the 10gbe . .

                    This is switch level not your router. You need 10gbe switching not routing.

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                      ubiquiti-user @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @jaredbusch Right, getting items confused.

                      Ignore me.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @ubiquiti-user
                        last edited by

                        @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                        @jaredbusch Right, getting items confused.

                        Ignore me.

                        I only flat ignore one use on here (so far). The rest I help or mock as appropriate.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
                          last edited by coliver

                          Offline I recommended this to aggregate switching, if 10Gbe was something that was desired/required in this instance. I believe it is only ~500$.

                          https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/

                          The diagram on that page would be what you'd be looking for specifically.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                            Offline I recommended this to aggregate switching, if 10Gbe was something that was desired/required in this instance. I believe it is only ~500$.

                            https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/

                            The diagram on that page would be what you'd be looking for specifically.

                            0_1501773191271_4d727604-8d7b-4c6f-8d99-02b01e981546-image.png

                            exactly this.

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                              ubiquiti-user @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                              @coliver said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                              Offline I recommended this to aggregate switching, if 10Gbe was something that was desired/required in this instance. I believe it is only ~500$.

                              https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-16-xg/

                              The diagram on that page would be what you'd be looking for specifically.

                              0_1501773191271_4d727604-8d7b-4c6f-8d99-02b01e981546-image.png

                              exactly this.

                              So get the edgerouter pro, the the edge switch (full sfp) and then gbe edge switches from there for the endpoints. Right?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @ubiquiti-user
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                                @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                Currently I have a lot of Cisco Meraki equipment with several years left on the licensing so while I can't replace it today, just doesn't make sense,

                                I've not read the loads of replies, but how does having the licensing still cause it to not make sense to replace? That's a sunk cost that you just have to ignore and go on with normal evaluations. It would be pretty easy for replacing it to end up cheaper than keeping it, even when it is already paid in advance. Not always, but pretty commonly.

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                                  ubiquiti-user @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                  @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                  Currently I have a lot of Cisco Meraki equipment with several years left on the licensing so while I can't replace it today, just doesn't make sense,

                                  I've not read the loads of replies, but how does having the licensing still cause it to not make sense to replace? That's a sunk cost that you just have to ignore and go on with normal evaluations. It would be pretty easy for replacing it to end up cheaper than keeping it, even when it is already paid in advance. Not always, but pretty commonly.

                                  Because we don't have any continued cost of licensing, unless we wanted to add AP's or hardware. So, while it was expensive, it was a one time cost for the term of the license, which still has several years left.

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                                    ubiquiti-user
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                                    Would you guys opt for an onsite controller or a hosted one on vultr for $6/month?

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                                      ubiquiti-user
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                                      Now @scottalanmiller this doesn't mean we wouldn't add new AP's of ubiquiti's in place of any AP requirements we might have.

                                      But doing a complete gut, just doesn't make sense. (I totally understand the sunk-cost fallacy).

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @jaredbusch said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                        @ubiquiti-user while I highly suspect the ERL could handle the workload, I would get the ER8 for a site with 100+ users.

                                        And once you factor in not needing a rack mount, it's not as expensive as it might be.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @ubiquiti-user
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                                          @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                          Would you guys opt for an onsite controller or a hosted one on vultr for $6/month?

                                          If you ONLY have one site, go on site. If you have more than one, probably go with Vultr.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                            @ubiquiti-user said in Meraki Replacement Plan:

                                            Would you guys opt for an onsite controller or a hosted one on vultr for $6/month?

                                            If you ONLY have one site, go on site. If you have more than one, probably go with Vultr.

                                            It is trivial to move later.

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