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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @IRJ
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      @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

      1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

      2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

      He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
        last edited by

        @IRJ I just checked my e-mail. You sent me that stuff Dec 14th, 2016 to give you an idea of how long it's been.

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        • IRJI
          IRJ @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

          1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

          2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

          He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

          It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @IRJ
            last edited by

            @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

            1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

            2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

            He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

            It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

            That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @IRJ
              last edited by

              @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @wirestyle22
                last edited by

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                Ask your boss that question

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @IRJ
                  last edited by wirestyle22

                  @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                  1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                  2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                  He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                  It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                  That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                  Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                  Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                  Ask your boss that question

                  lol dude. my boss knows way less than i do. as far as hes concerned I know everything there is to know, which we all know is complete horse shit. I can ask him, but he sees me reading books constantly. I'm sure he's going to say keep reading

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

                    But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

                      But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes

                      I'm studying for my RHCE which I will end up taking, but I'm not ready to today.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                        1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                        2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                        He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                        It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                        That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                        Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                        Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                        Ask your boss that question

                        lol dude. my boss knows way less than i do. as far as hes concerned I know everything there is to know, which we all know is complete horse shit. I can ask him, but he sees me reading books constantly. I'm sure he's going to say keep reading

                        Exactly you steer them into giving you the answer you want

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                          1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                          2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                          He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                          It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                          That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                          Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                          Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                          Ask your boss that question

                          lol dude. my boss knows way less than i do. as far as hes concerned I know everything there is to know, which we all know is complete horse shit. I can ask him, but he sees me reading books constantly. I'm sure he's going to say keep reading

                          Exactly you steer them into giving you the answer you want

                          I really don't think it's going to go that way, but I will ask him the next time he is here

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

                            But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes

                            I'm studying for my RHCE which I will end up taking, but I'm not ready to today.

                            Problem is, that's not education to grow you at your job. That's eduction for your next job. It's not career growth, it is career change. That's going to not going over well.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                              1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                              2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                              He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                              It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                              That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                              Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                              Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                              Ask your boss that question

                              lol dude. my boss knows way less than i do. as far as hes concerned I know everything there is to know, which we all know is complete horse shit. I can ask him, but he sees me reading books constantly. I'm sure he's going to say keep reading

                              Exactly you steer them into giving you the answer you want

                              I really don't think it's going to go that way, but I will ask him the next time he is here

                              You can't take no for an answer. Even if you have personal reasons, There's a million business reasons why training is worth its weight in gold

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

                                But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes

                                I'm studying for my RHCE which I will end up taking, but I'm not ready to today.

                                Problem is, that's not education to grow you at your job. That's eduction for your next job. It's not career growth, it is career change. That's going to not going over well.

                                I'm not asking him to pay for an RHCE though. I'm doing that myself.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  Let me tell you something I've learned through experience. Confidence, clear direction, a little arrogance, and a just a pinch of bullshit will get you way farther than being a yes man.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    Let me tell you something I've learned through experience. Confidence, clear direction, a little arrogance, and a just a pinch of bullshit will get you way farther than being a yes man.

                                    I am in no way a yes man. I fight them on practically everything.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ You're seeing me when I've already decided to leave as @scottalanmiller can confirm.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @IRJ You're seeing me when I've already decided to leave as @scottalanmiller can confirm.

                                        This advice stands no matter where you go. Learning how to market yourself is a skill you must master.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          I've worked for a few companies that were penny wise and pound foolish, but I always demanded training. It was one thing I would not budge on. Because it's not only good for me, but it's good for the company. I've worked in IT departments where I was the ONLY one to get training that year.

                                          I have 15 certifications. Some are not of much use anymore, but I always have proof of my training and my resume sticks out. I've never had an issue landing a job within a week of I want it. I can't remember the last time I applied for a job and didn't get a call or email. Of course I'm picky in what I reach out on, but like you I've gotten as much as a $20k increase between positions. I've never taken less than $10k

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ
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                                            I'm probably the only one here who has paid each time I've been in a job search to get my resume done professionally. But I think for $10k-$20k a year, paying $150-200 for a resume is a no Brainer.

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