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    Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Yeah, here is a tough one. User has a 32bit Windows 2008 install that he is not allowed to remove. He needs to install MySQL 5.7, which cannot install on something as old as Windows 2008 (nor should it go there, anyway.) He needs to get it onto CentOS or something similar. VirtualBox on Windows 2008 might let him do what he needs. Nothing is going to be great here given the extreme limitations.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        And he has to run it on top of this 2008 system? Nothing additional on which to run?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          This is weird, but VBox says that it will run on Windows Vista and Windows 7 32bit, but that it won't run on Windows 2008 32bit. How does that work? No idea.

          https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#hostossupport

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            If going this route, only 32bit CentOS is an option. Far, far from ideal. But here is the link for it in case it is needed...

            http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/isos/i386/CentOS-7-i386-Minimal-1611.iso

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            • NetworkNerdN
              NetworkNerd
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              I was thinking older version of VMware Workstation / VMware Player, but it appears even older versions want a 64-bit CPU. 😞

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              • iroalI
                iroal
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                Windows 2008 does not have option to install hyperv role?

                @NetworkNerd said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                I was thinking older version of VMware Workstation / VMware Player, but it appears even older versions want a 64-bit CPU. 😞

                I think is the best option, and old version of Vmware Player

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller Yeah, that's weird is almost the same kernel between Vista and Server 2008. I think that requirement of that SW post is skewed. Nothing can be done right on that setup.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dbeato
                    last edited by

                    @dbeato said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                    @scottalanmiller Yeah, that's weird is almost the same kernel between Vista and Server 2008. I think that requirement of that SW post is skewed. Nothing can be done right on that setup.

                    There is certainly no great answer there.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr
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                      Is Hyper-V installed? VirtualBox has some issues with Hyper-V.

                      BTW: Can't he use Hyper-V?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @thwr
                        last edited by

                        @thwr said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                        Is Hyper-V installed? VirtualBox has some issues with Hyper-V.

                        BTW: Can't he use Hyper-V?

                        Does Hyper-V install on 32bit?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor from AFTER the hardware assist era. Pretty sure it has no pure software mode.

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by thwr

                            @scottalanmiller said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                            @thwr said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                            Is Hyper-V installed? VirtualBox has some issues with Hyper-V.

                            BTW: Can't he use Hyper-V?

                            Does Hyper-V install on 32bit?

                            https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/migreene/2008/02/29/why-is-there-a-32-bit-windows-server-2008-option-without-hyper-v/

                            doesn't look like, my bad.

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                            • jt1001001J
                              jt1001001
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                              I swear I tried this year's ago but can't find any notes on it maybe a home project at the time when I had a 32 bit Dell 2600 boat anchor lab server.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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                                @jt1001001 said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                                I swear I tried this year's ago but can't find any notes on it maybe a home project at the time when I had a 32 bit Dell 2600 boat anchor lab server.

                                It's definitely not something that you really want to do, this is someone stuck with a business that isn't taking itself seriously and is dramatically below the home line.

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                                • matteo nunziatiM
                                  matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller not an answer to your question but...
                                  if this is the state of art there, why not simply put a pc under ups with a couple of hdd. install centos e do stuff there with software raid1...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                                    @matteo-nunziati said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                                    @scottalanmiller not an answer to your question but...
                                    if this is the state of art there, why not simply put a pc under ups with a couple of hdd. install centos e do stuff there with software raid1...

                                    Management won't let them.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by thwr

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                                      @matteo-nunziati said in Type 2 Virtualization on Top of Windows Server 2008 32bit:

                                      @scottalanmiller not an answer to your question but...
                                      if this is the state of art there, why not simply put a pc under ups with a couple of hdd. install centos e do stuff there with software raid1...

                                      Management won't let them.

                                      And management is aware of...
                                      https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search?sort=PN&alpha=Windows Server 2008&Filter=FilterNO ?

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                                      • dbeatoD
                                        dbeato
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                                        The last time I had to do this was on a PE 2900 with Vmware and it ran 32 bits VMs and 64 linux vms on a 32 bit system.

                                        I even had a pe 2850 booting to USB with a diskette lol 🙂

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                                        • jt1001001J
                                          jt1001001 @dbeato
                                          last edited by

                                          @dbeato wasn't there a hack to allow 32 bit VMware to load 64 bit operating systems?

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato @jt1001001
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                                            @jt1001001 It will only work if the CPU is 64 bits but the Vmware version is 32 bits.

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