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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @bbigford
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      @BBigford said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

      Since the pool can consist of any drives, can be setup as one volume, can be over-allocated, and drives dynamically added to it, I would definitely say it could be called a JBOD ...

      That description to me sounds like you are about to say that since they can be all those things then they clearly can't be a JBOD, but you end with the opposite conclusion than I would expect from the description.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bbigford
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        @BBigford said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

        Literally just a bunch of disks thrown into a pool.

        Same as "just a bunch of disks thrown into an array".

        Normally that's the polar opposite of JBOD.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
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          Here's wikipedia's def:

          0_1488739419486_jbod.png

          So going by that, it's a JBOD until you span them (or essentially do anything else with multiple disks). So then theoretically, I guess if you had a specific mount point for each drive, it would be a JBOD.

          sda -> /disk1
          sdb -> /disk2
          sdc -> /disk3

          So I guess if nothing is spanned across, it could be a JBOD?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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            @stacksofplates said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

            Here's wikipedia's def:

            0_1488739419486_jbod.png

            So going by that, it's a JBOD until you span them (or essentially do anything else with multiple disks). So then theoretically, I guess if you had a specific mount point for each drive, it would be a JBOD.

            sda -> /disk1
            sdb -> /disk2
            sdc -> /disk3

            So I guess if nothing is spanned across, it could be a JBOD?

            It doesn't list only the two things, or else RAID would still be JBOD. It just is two examples there. One example is JBOD, one is SPAN. There are many others, some listed, some not. Wasn't MAID on the list, too?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Isn't a pool a form of spanning? Do pools display the original devices through, or new ones? Pools are an LVM, and any LVM use means JBOD is long gone.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                re. One example is JBOD, one is SPAN. There are many others, some listed, some not. Wasn't MAID on the list, too?

                I only copied some of the definition. My point was they said a SPAN is "from" a JBOD. Being from, it can't be that after you span them.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                  Isn't a pool a form of spanning? Do pools display the original devices through, or new ones? Pools are an LVM, and any LVM use means JBOD is long gone.

                  I never mentioned pooling. I wasn't talking about any logical volume implementations. Just straight disks with file systems mounted to individual mount points.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                    @stacksofplates said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                    Here's wikipedia's def:

                    0_1488739419486_jbod.png

                    So going by that, it's a JBOD until you span them (or essentially do anything else with multiple disks). So then theoretically, I guess if you had a specific mount point for each drive, it would be a JBOD.

                    sda -> /disk1
                    sdb -> /disk2
                    sdc -> /disk3

                    So I guess if nothing is spanned across, it could be a JBOD?

                    It doesn't list only the two things, or else RAID would still be JBOD. It just is two examples there. One example is JBOD, one is SPAN. There are many others, some listed, some not. Wasn't MAID on the list, too?

                    Yeah, MAID was on the list. I only copied the first two because of the "from JBOD" phrase.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @stacksofplates said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                      re. One example is JBOD, one is SPAN. There are many others, some listed, some not. Wasn't MAID on the list, too?

                      I only copied some of the definition. My point was they said a SPAN is "from" a JBOD. Being from, it can't be that after you span them.

                      Ah, just like a pool is "from a JBOD."

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce
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                        Uh-oh. Dell is doing it now ^_^

                        0_1498583221414_Untitled.jpg

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Argh

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Should We Ever Talk About JBODs:

                            Argh

                            ROFL.

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