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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

      @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

      @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

      OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.

      Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.

      And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!

      It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

        @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

        @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

        @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

        OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.

        Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.

        And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!

        It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics

        http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/325

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

          @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

          @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

          @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

          @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

          OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.

          Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.

          And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!

          It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics

          http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/325

          That was many generations later. The American world was already all but wiped out by then. It was the little understood 1616 epidemic, that wasn't even fully recognized until the last decade, that wiped out 90% of the entire population of the new world before the Europeans had even settled in North America. That's why Plymouth Colony was empty and built on the burial grounds and abandoned villages of the area.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

            @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

            @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

            @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

            @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

            @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

            OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.

            Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.

            And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!

            It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics

            http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/325

            That was many generations later. The American world was already all but wiped out by then. It was the little understood 1616 epidemic, that wasn't even fully recognized until the last decade, that wiped out 90% of the entire population of the new world before the Europeans had even settled in North America. That's why Plymouth Colony was empty and built on the burial grounds and abandoned villages of the area.

            Where did the plague come from then?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              @scottalanmiller said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

              OH the immigration to the US definitely killed off the American Indian culture (with the exception of the Indian reservations. Indian culture and western culture were basically incompatible, so one had to go.

              Most Indian culture was gone before the Europeans arrived. European immigration was a terrible factor, but not the big one. The Europeans coming to the new world in what is now the US found much of it already empty due to the plague that literally decimated the population. Indian culture was going through a shift when the Europeans arrived. Of course having the Europeans here totally changed things, too. but it wasn't the driving factor.

              And take a guess on where that plague came from? They even purposely spread it!

              It came from Europe, but Europeans didn't even know what it was or how diseases like that spread at the time. 90% of North America was dead before Europeans even got there to see them. They could not have spread it intentionally, everyone was dead before anyone knew what had happened. And in Latin America, it wasn't Europeans that brought it.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics

              http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/325

              That was many generations later. The American world was already all but wiped out by then. It was the little understood 1616 epidemic, that wasn't even fully recognized until the last decade, that wiped out 90% of the entire population of the new world before the Europeans had even settled in North America. That's why Plymouth Colony was empty and built on the burial grounds and abandoned villages of the area.

              Where did the plague come from then?

              They don't know for sure. The common theory was from contact with fishing boats. But as it was undocumented, no one knows for sure. Everyone is sure that it spread from European contact, but not settled contact. And it was before Europeans knew what diseases were, so it could not have been intentional. In other parts of the world, those diseases were pretty minor, so that it killed people at any rate was quite shocking and there was no way to predict it, or to know about it.

              When the Spaniards explored the Mississippi Valley, the death had happened in front of them so they only discovered empty cities, they had no idea what had happened or how long before.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Even in modern times, the impact of some traditional diseases on unprepared American populations was believed to be a myth until small pox hit a remote Amazonian Basin area and the death rate hit 90% inside the fire line.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
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                  I think I was originally thinking of New Spain (modern day Mexico) and even South America. 1500's

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

                  But even still, in the mid 1700s, it was used as an early biological warfare or weapon on the Indians.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                    I think I was originally thinking of New Spain (modern day Mexico) and even South America. 1500's

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

                    But even still, in the mid 1700s, it was used as an early biological warfare or weapon on the Indians.

                    Oh yes, by the 1700s. Sure. But that was several generations after the original culture and even some civilizations had been wiped out completely.

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                      Carnival Boy @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                      I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                      You need to stop following Donald Trump on Twitter 🙂

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                        JackCPickup @Carnival Boy
                        last edited by

                        @Carnival-Boy said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                        @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                        I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                        You need to stop following Donald Trump on Twitter 🙂

                        Thought I recognised that statement. Absolute bollocks.

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                          Deleted74295 Banned @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said

                          I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                          There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                          I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                          Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                          Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Deleted74295
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                            @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                            @Dashrender said

                            I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                            There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                            I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                            Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                            Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                            Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                            Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                              @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                              @Dashrender said

                              I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                              There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                              I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                              Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                              Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                              Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                              Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                              Some of the worst things in recorded human history have happened in the name of one god or another.

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                                JackCPickup @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                @Dashrender said

                                I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                                There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                                I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                                Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                                Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                                Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                                Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                                Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.

                                The rest described is just rough areas in general.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @JackCPickup
                                  last edited by

                                  @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                  @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                  @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                  @Dashrender said

                                  I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                                  There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                                  I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                                  Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                                  Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                                  Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                                  Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                                  Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.

                                  The rest described is just rough areas in general.

                                  You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.

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                                    JackCPickup @Dashrender
                                    last edited by JackCPickup

                                    @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                    @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                    @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                    @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                    @Dashrender said

                                    I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                                    There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                                    I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                                    Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                                    Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                                    Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                                    Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                                    Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.

                                    The rest described is just rough areas in general.

                                    You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.

                                    Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JackCPickup
                                      last edited by

                                      @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                      @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                      @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                      @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                      @Dashrender said

                                      I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                                      There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                                      I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                                      Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                                      Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                                      Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                                      Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                                      Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.

                                      The rest described is just rough areas in general.

                                      You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.

                                      Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.

                                      Ok fine it's not taking over but it is why the police don't go in those areas unless in force - or at least the give excuse.

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                                        JackCPickup @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                        @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                        @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                        @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                        @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                        @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                        @Dashrender said

                                        I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                                        There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                                        I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                                        Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                                        Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                                        Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                                        Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                                        Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.

                                        The rest described is just rough areas in general.

                                        You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.

                                        Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.

                                        Ok fine it's not taking over but it is why the police don't go in those areas unless in force - or at least the give excuse.

                                        Those parts of his statement weren't related, there is harassment of the public with Sharia used as an excuse in the smallest of minorities. Remove Muslims from the UK and there would be no fewer of these areas where police don't feel safe to patrol.

                                        I don't mind what you say about the police, but using your statement about Muslims with no idea of the actual situation seems stupid and targeted.

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                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                          @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                          @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                          @JackCPickup said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                          @Dashrender said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                          @Breffni-Potter said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                          @Dashrender said

                                          I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm hearing this is the case regarding Muslims in the UK. There are sections of the UK where the police don't even go because Sharia Law is taking over.

                                          There are in fact areas the police are not able to patrol heavily. I grew up in Slough which now has areas where the police do not go unless they are in force and in riot gear, there are also parts of East London which are in a similar bad spot.

                                          I was passing through Woolwich Arsenal, a massive fight had broken out....between 2 groups of angry white men....wearing different football uniforms.

                                          Sharia law has nothing to do with it, its down to crime and vandalism, There are cases of gangs harassing women and individuals using "Sharia" as justification but they are in the minority.

                                          Christianity also has its fair share of violent fools. Look at the Westboro baptist church.

                                          Interesting to basically see confirmation of what I heard.
                                          Of course evil things are do in the name of any/everything. Sharia is just the one I heard about.

                                          Literally said Sharia Law has nothing to do with it. You was talking about Muslims but that has nothing to do with it either.

                                          The rest described is just rough areas in general.

                                          You said they used it as justification- regardless of how it's used the fact is that it was used.

                                          Your statement said Sharia Law is taking over, that is not true. That is not the same as "some people" using it as justification.

                                          Ok fine it's not taking over but it is why the police don't go in those areas unless in force - or at least the give excuse.

                                          By that standard, Sharia law is "taking over" the US too, including Nebraska. Do you feel that that is a good statement?

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                                            StorageNinja Vendor @Obsolesce
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                                            @Tim_G said in SMB vs Enterprise:

                                            European work law is great, especially if you have a family. It's similar to Italy or better in most European countries.
                                            In the U.S., it's hardcore capitalism... all about pinching pennies and screwing the employees if need be. There's a lot of exceptions (of course, like where John Nicholson works, and my employer is great), but generally speaking I mean. If you have a higher position in an F500 company it is most likely OKAY. But still, never even close to how good it is in Europe. That's why they are always named the happiest countries, especially the Scandinavian counties and Canada.

                                            My sister gets 6 months in DC working for a non-profit.Plenty of companies offer generous benefits like this, they are just normally not SMBs.

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