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    HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

      So is this another IPOD, but at a government level?

      Cause that is what it sounds like. . .

      It IS an IPOD, but we assume at a massive scale where an IPOD would make sense. In theory, these are insanely high availability SANs (except that was apparently not how they were used here) and in theory there would always be replication between SANs at this level. However, that's not what King's College London did, and that was HPE consulting there as well.

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
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        Sounds like they were victims of Shiny New Device syndrome.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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          @nadnerB said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

          Sounds like they were victims of Shiny New Device syndrome.

          Likely victims of "I'll just let a salesman do my job and get paid to not know what I'm doing" syndrome.

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            stess @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

            @nadnerB said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

            Sounds like they were victims of Shiny New Device syndrome.

            Likely victims of "I'll just let a salesman do my job and get paid to not know what I'm doing" syndrome.

            At my work right now... we just implemented a SAN device which supposed to store our Files servers.... Even if there are multiple drives, and Raid 10, there is only one SAN. I was aggressively oppose this idea, but it was approved by my manger anyhow. Can't wait for it to fail. * grab popcorn *

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco
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              The moral of this story is that listening to HPE consulting will totally bone your systems at maximum profit to HPE.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                @RojoLoco said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                The moral of this story is that listening to HPE consulting will totally bone your systems at maximum profit to HPE.

                Yup, it's like RAID 5 - people forget that it makes vendors money to recommend reckless systems. The risk goes to you, the profits go to them.

                It's far from specific to HPE, but HPE seems to have a track record of it recently.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                  @RojoLoco said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                  The moral of this story is that listening to HPE consulting will totally bone your systems at maximum profit to HPE.

                  Yup, it's like RAID 5 - people forget that it makes vendors money to recommend reckless systems. The risk goes to you, the profits go to them.

                  It's far from specific to HPE, but HPE seems to have a track record of it recently.

                  Maybe the "E" stands for "evil".

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @RojoLoco
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                    @RojoLoco said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                    @scottalanmiller said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                    @RojoLoco said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                    The moral of this story is that listening to HPE consulting will totally bone your systems at maximum profit to HPE.

                    Yup, it's like RAID 5 - people forget that it makes vendors money to recommend reckless systems. The risk goes to you, the profits go to them.

                    It's far from specific to HPE, but HPE seems to have a track record of it recently.

                    Maybe the "E" stands for "evil".

                    That's still Lenovo in my book, but HPE is working on it.

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                    • nadnerBN
                      nadnerB
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                      https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/210543_700b_v1.jpg

                      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/08/ato_hpe_outage_report/

                      Also:
                      https://www.itnews.com.au/news/ato-to-rebuild-internal-it-in-wake-of-storage-outages-464565

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                      • Deleted74295D
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                        Listening to any vendor consulting will lead to a p*** poor system but for the vendors profit.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                          @Breffni-Potter said in HPE SANs Not Designed for Reliability in the Australian Tax Office:

                          Listening to any vendor consulting will lead to a p*** poor system but for the vendors profit.

                          Yeah, they brought in the wrong people here. Fundamental business flaws. Listening to the sales people instead of hiring someone whose job it is to know what is needed.

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